Originally Posted by
t_niehoff
It's a very easy thing to see what sorts of things CONSISTENTLY "work" (not just are lucky breaks) and what doesn't in the real world -- just look at fighting and you see those things for yourself. Sure not everyone can do what others can do, there are individual differences, but those occur in a range of possibilites everyone operates in. While I can't do many things, I can see that they are possiblle since others are consistently doing them.
So let's see some examples.. Not of BJJ, boxing, not of Muay Thai, not of X, but let's see the WCK "working" the way you say it should...
We can observe all kinds of things, that have nothing to do with the subject here.. You say WCK is done a certain way, a way that somehow you know no-one else here does it.. So show it.. Show it yourself, or show someone else using WCK in the context you speak of.. You don't post any clips AT ALL.. You just shoot everyone else down..... Since you can't post anything relevant, meaning that you find valid I must assume whatever that 'thing' is you have is just a theory..
Originally Posted by
t_niehoff
You ask "Is your EXPERIENCE then a template to use on someone else?" And the answer is OF COURSE. You, yourself, do it all the time.
No, I don't.. I don't tell anyone they can't fight.. I don't tell anyone they can't do X.. I don't make all kinds of assumptions of what people mean by "It works"...
What I do, do, is apply the template of the system, art, method that I know as WCK on what I see.. If there is a major mismatch then IMO what is being done is not WCK, not what I know as WCK... I can also illustrate why it isn't.. In most cases what I see is overly complex, doesn't adhere to the most basic elements of the system, or outright goes against them.. I can explain why not and also explain what does.
Originally Posted by
t_niehoff
Your reasoning isn't sound. You can have good, sufficient experience to know whether something works or doesn't work and still not be skillful yourself -- experience alone doesn't confer skill.
BS.
It's what coaches do all day.. No they can't make a student perform but they can tell them what they are doing wrong and also tell them/show them how to do it right, how to train it right and how to apply it right. Any coach of any art can do this... Yet for some reason you can't...and also make the fantastic claim no one does and can't.. You say you can only say what is wrong but not what is right, that sir is a giant load of horse poop.
As far as control, you "control" when you need to and don't when you don't need to (assuming erroneously as you do that impacting is not a form of control).. There is a time and place for each element in the system, however, that doesn't mean all elements are used all the time... Pretty simple really... On the surface it would seem any experienced fighter would understand that.
Last edited by YungChun; 01-28-2010 at 05:14 PM.
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