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    Wing Chun vs Northern Shaolin - Contact fighting

    Hey, I just found this clip form Brazil. It is incomplete but you don't have to stretch your imaginations too far to see some actual WC in a contact scenario.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2FULpeTto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    Hey, I just found this clip form Brazil. It is incomplete but you don't have to stretch your imaginations too far to see some actual WC in a contact scenario.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2FULpeTto
    So, a physically larger person beats on a smaller man, and what does is this supposed to tell me?

    I did like the kick at 0:47, but the rest was barbaric.
    'Talk is cheap because there is an excess of supply over demand'

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    Hi Bill..

    Yeah me too..

    I was away for quite a while and when I looked back in it seemed as though no time had past.

    Just goes to show you...

    And a year from now...? Same old.

    Such is KF life here..

    Helps me focus though..
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    Hey Jim,
    I think you're right. I was looking at "Where's the WCK" thread and thinking... Haven't I already read this stuff? I thought for a moment I was in WCK version of "Groundhog Day".
    'Talk is cheap because there is an excess of supply over demand'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix View Post
    Hey Jim,
    I think you're right. I was looking at "Where's the WCK" thread and thinking... Haven't I already read this stuff? I thought for a moment I was in WCK version of "Groundhog Day".
    Yeah time compression.. Maybe we were abducted...

    I think I recall the same name used on another thread started over a year ago...

    It's just that popular a topic... LOL

    Nice to see you though..
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    Quote Originally Posted by YungChun View Post
    I think I recall the same name used on another thread started over a year ago...

    It's just that popular a topic... LOL

    Nice to see you though..
    Good to see you too. Let the fun and games continue.........
    'Talk is cheap because there is an excess of supply over demand'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix View Post
    So, a physically larger person beats on a smaller man, and what does is this supposed to tell me?

    I did like the kick at 0:47, but the rest was barbaric.
    As short as the clip was, I still managed to see a bit of WC principles and techniques in there.

    The WC guy closed down his opponent very quickly, hit fast and hard and then took him down. The kick that you mentioned is also trained in WC.

    I will also add that I have seen plenty of smaller guys beating up on bigger guys in MA competitions as well. IT is not always about size. IMHO, the WC guy would have done the same if they were both the same size or even perhaps if he was smaller than the other guy.

    But hey, this is just a video clip that IMHO demonstrates, at least to me, some Wing Chun principles and techniques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    I will also add that I have seen plenty of smaller guys beating up on bigger guys in MA competitions as well. IT is not always about size. IMHO, the WC guy would have done the same if they were both the same size or even perhaps if he was smaller than the other guy.
    My point is that it is expected that a larger person can overpower a smaller one. If it had been the other way around, I might be more enthusiastic. It looked it bit manic to me, but hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    But hey, this is just a video clip that IMHO demonstrates, at least to me, some Wing Chun principles and techniques.
    The kick was the only thing I saw that I liked. The rest was just a big dude rushing in on a smaller/weaker dude. But that's what I see. You obviously see it differently, and I respect that.
    Thanks for sharing the clip.

    Bill
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    I had to watch it about 3 times to figure out any of that archaic mess but yea...the "wing chun guy" did use some wing chun principles.

    He immediately closed the distance, but to be fair someone had to do it and its done in many matches style aside.

    He did come out with a flurry of punches, though they weren't all in the vertical fist chain punching form, and again, its done in many matches and styles alike.

    He had a decent takedown which I've never seen taught in wing chun persay, but it was a natural progression with the other guy doing what he was doing (or not doing rather).

    The best part about it in my opinion was the stop kick at the "end".

    Size does make a difference though, especially when the skill level is where it was.
    "I don't know if anyone is known with the art of "sitting on your couch" here, but in my eyes it is also to be a martial art.

    It is the art of avoiding dangerous situations. It helps you to avoid a dangerous situation by not actually being there. So lets say there is a dangerous situation going on somewhere other than your couch. You are safely seated on your couch so you have in a nutshell "difused" the situation."

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