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    Tim Tebow Super Bowl Ad

    Interesting story, a group wants to pay a gazillions dollars to have Tim Tebow appear on a 30 second ad during the Super Bowl in a religious pro life commercial.

    Some groups are really upset about this however I say "Knock yourselves out! Buy up all the Super Bowl ads'!" I can't think of any better use of the money they have than to drain it in one night.

    However if they claim they should get it for free because it's a PSA then I have a big problem with it. They should pay the going rate for 30 seconds during the Super Bowl.

    I also have a problem if a large corporation is paying for it. The Supreme Court decision will have a large impact on things like this. Nothing is stopping a conservative company from spending millions on TV on any political issue they like.

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    Man, if you're gonna live in a free country, then you cannot expect everyone to shut up and stick to one way of thinking.

    That is a dictatorship in a totalitarian modality.

    Let these people speak all they like and get their points across and do what they will with themselves so long as it brings no harm to another.

    Having said that, the Superbowl is not an appropriate venue for public service announcements and I agree they should pay for the time like anyone else and frankly, it doesn't matter where the money comes from, so long as it's paid, follows rule of law and brings no harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Man, if you're gonna live in a free country, then you cannot expect everyone to shut up and stick to one way of thinking.

    That is a dictatorship in a totalitarian modality.

    Let these people speak all they like and get their points across and do what they will with themselves so long as it brings no harm to another.
    Liberals love free speech when a wife-beating plagiarist like Ward Churchill has the floor. But when someone criticises a liberal, it's time for them to pass new laws restricting free speech. Just more hypocracy from them. It's par for the course.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Liberals love free speech when a wife-beating plagiarist like Ward Churchill has the floor.
    I'm still waiting to see the arrest warrent on that...or even the visit from the police concerning domestic violence. Ward has never used physical violence against any woman. But hey continue to use that. Those of us who know just laugh at stuff like that.

    By the by who criticized a liberal? It's my understanding that this commercial was some sort of pro life rant and not directed at any one person or group.

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    Drake, it looks 'Change' has indeed happened in BD's case.

    It used to be "Neo". Now it's "Teabagger".
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    I'm still waiting to see the arrest warrent on that...or even the visit from the police concerning domestic violence.
    A judge issued a restraining order against him at the behest of one of his wives.

    Notice I never said he was arrested for it, or had a warrant issued. You made that up.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    A judge issued a restraining order against him at the behest of one of his wives.

    Notice I never said he was arrested for it, or had a warrant issued. You made that up.

    Okay then, Hospital records? Any calls to any abuse hot lines? Any statements from relatives, friends, neighbors...anybody that Ward beat his wife?

    Give a little proof to back up what you say.

    Do you know anything about going through a divorce? Many lawyers will advise you to get a restaining order against your spouse. If nothing else it gives you leverage in a division of assets settlement.

    That divorce has been over for many years. Ward remains friends with his former wife and remarried and has been happily married for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Liberals love free speech when a wife-beating plagiarist like Ward Churchill has the floor. But when someone criticises a liberal, it's time for them to pass new laws restricting free speech. Just more hypocracy from them. It's par for the course.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    I also have a problem if a large corporation is paying for it. The Supreme Court decision will have a large impact on things like this. Nothing is stopping a conservative company from spending millions on TV on any political issue they like.
    Good thing it will. The actually read the Constitution. Of course you liberals hate that pesky Bill of Rights.

    Hey, maybe you should go to Venezuela. Hugo Chavez just shut down another TV station that dared criticize him.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Good thing it will. The actually read the Constitution. Of course you liberals hate that pesky Bill of Rights.

    Hey, maybe you should go to Venezuela. Hugo Chavez just shut down another TV station that dared criticize him.
    BD doesn't want power anyway, so it doesn't really matter what he wants. Don't forget, his party doesn't want responsibility. They just want to complain when tough choices have to made.
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    Can any of you people read? Where did I say I did not want to see this on TV? As far as I'm concerned Tebow can get on there and do his teabagger talk throughout the Super Bowl.

    However you people see absolutely no problem with one of the big mortgage houses going to massive multi-million dollar ad campaign to sway public opinion and politicians?

    The freedom of speech is not without limits. Of course if I have money I can hire celebrities, sports figures, etc and use them to sway public opinion. As Citizen Kane said, "They think what I tell them to think".

    If you teabaggers want to be slaves to the big corporations just because they agree with many of your stands then remember they are going to want something in return.

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    Colts or Saints?

    Now here's a flame war we can sink our teeth into - let's talk Superbowl XLIV.

    I got to go with the Saints. N'rleans has had it tough with Katrina and Seagal as their Lawman. They need the moral boost. It's purely an emotional call. I don't really follow football to say anything intelligent about the teams.

    Anything to get away from the stupid flame war on the Tim Tebow Super Bowl Ad thread.
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    I would like NO to win, but Indy is going to be hard to beat.

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    Arsenal over Chelsea soon I hope.
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    Not really a big pro fan......

    The edge goes to Indy but these pro teams are so evenly matched it could go either way. I'll say Indy if for no other reason than they've been there before.

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