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  1. #31
    nothing like working the basics to death.... good for you Andy. keep up the good work.
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    Tonight was drills and sparring. Sparring is done on a six foot circular rug to force close quarter fighting. No place to run, no time to rest.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1-wR...ature=youtu.be
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  3. #33
    LOL tonight was full contact sparring, man do my guys need work and pratice to not looking like kickboxers when they spar. and look more like mantides
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    we would spar and our shrfu would give each one of us different techniques
    , that was all we were allowed to use so you had to implement your mantis techniques.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by EarthDragon View Post
    LOL tonight was full contact sparring, man do my guys need work and pratice to not looking like kickboxers when they spar. and look more like mantides
    On a side note:

    I'm thinking of trying a different strategy where we embrace kickboxing / San Da and slowly introduce mantis techniques like diu sau and ou lou choi after gaining proficiency in sanda.

    I think about the Wong Long story. The guy liked to spar, started losing, then had a moment of inspiration and created the mantis techniques. So my rationale is that instead of introducing the idea of mantis sparring - just introduce good sparring using sound technique. Once the person starts to have skill in timing and is comfortable with sparring - then start introducing mantis stuff.
    Last edited by MightyB; 12-12-2012 at 11:47 AM.

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    mighty b

    to me it makes more sense to start off learning to apply basic mantis techniques and as they improve, add more advanced techniques than to get them used to sparring one way and then say okay, now we do it this way. i would rather start out understanding mantis and the theory and learn to apply it than the way you mentioned.
    just my personal feelings.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by 18elders View Post
    to me it makes more sense to start off learning to apply basic mantis techniques and as they improve, add more advanced techniques than to get them used to sparring one way and then say okay, now we do it this way. i would rather start out understanding mantis and the theory and learn to apply it than the way you mentioned.
    just my personal feelings.
    I used to think that, but pretty much everyone I know myself included devolves into some type kickboxing in hard sparring. So my thought is might as well go with it and get good at the basics of san da and spar as much as possible. I figure as people get comfortable sparring, it gets easier to ad some of the traps and techniques from mantis.

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    thanks for the feed back, I actually its sensable both ways depending on the approach. I have tried to come from both angles but with almost the same result, we use mantis in our sparring break down combos etc etc work the basics but seems when students go at it it it looks more like (punch kick) then (mantis hook) if you get my drift.
    When i break it down slow step by step it they understand and they try but with gloves mouth guard head gear its like a slug fest.
    I even have 1 attacker and 1 defender so they arent afriad to try something that might otherwise be countered and get them punched in the face to make them feel comfotable about going anf thinking techniques outside the box.

    I also saw littel to no footwork which is promary to 8 step and they reserved to move back and forth on the straiight line which is a complete no no.

    its just interesting to see beginner to mid level students apply what they can do solo. its all in the application I dont care how good your fromes look or how well you resemble the bug when your doing your applications, if you cant fight with it whats the point?
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    Ohio Wu Tang Center for Martial Arts - Tony Yang - Wednesday 12/12/2012

    Jibengong

    Forms practice: Beng Bu & Zhai Kui

    Weapons: Double Broadswords & Whip Chain

    Videotaped Shifu Zhang Maochang performing Zhai Yao Yi Lu from various angles.

    Master Yang reported on his seminar at the Wu Tang Center in Alabama last weekend.
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    Mantis Masters Academy - Richard A. Tolson - Thursday 12/13/2012

    Zhai Yao Yi Lu Two Man Drills:

    1. Lock Mouth Strike
    2. Immortal Takes the Hair
    3. White Ape Steals the Peach

    Knee Striking Drills on BOB

    Lecture:

    The hidden meaning behind the Zhai Yao Yi Lu term, "Wind Scatters the Leaves".
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    Ohio Wu Tang Center for Martial Arts - Tony Yang - Saturday 12/15/2012

    Jian Basic Exercises

    Shuangshoujian form

    Lectures by Master Yang:

    掉 知 覺 - diào zhī jué - "turning the perception" or Misdirection in Fighting

    The Five Element Theory as it relates to Health, Training and Fighting
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    Not a praying mantis class. This is what we worked on this morning:

    1. Wrists grabs, mantis arms.
    2. Shin bite, scoop, leg seize.
    3. Reverse shin bite, reverse scoop, reverse leg seize.
    4. Groin kick, downward block, comb hair, punch, neck push, arm wrap, front cut.
    5. Groin kick, upward separate hands, head lock, front cut.
    6. Groin kick, foot sweep, sideway head lock, hip push.
    7. Break neck tie by elbow joint lock.
    8. Break neck tie by wrist joint lock.
    9. Neck tie, head lock.
    10. Break MT clinch by peircing.
    11. Wheeling, inner hook.
    12. Wheeling, leg lift.
    13. Wheeling, leg twist.
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    Mantis Masters Academy - Richard A. Tolson - 12/18/2012

    Four combination drills from Zhai Yao Yi Lu (three old & one new).

    Sparring (one person attacks & one person defends).

    Sparring with hand techniques only.

    Lecture: Entering & tieing up the enemy's hands.
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    Akron Kung Fu Academy - Mike Biggie - Saturday 12/29/2012

    Jibengong

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    Black Tiger Criss-Cross

    Double Insert Flowers
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    Lately Siu Fan Che and conditioning. Probably more Siu Fan Che tonight.

    I like the way that form moves alternating between short and long attacks, and the applications fit my nature. I like how in that form it doesn't seem to matter how the opponent reacts in regards to the combinations it uses... meaning he can block with his left or right, it can be a gua or pak, heck - it doesn't matter just do what you do and he'll go down eventually.

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