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The reason it looks like pure demo is that I can't see his head turn to look before his body turns. Maybe it's just the quality of the video. It's the focus that can make or break a form. It's also done at pretty much the same speed throughout, rather than differing the rhythm with some moves.
I don't know the form he's doing, so maybe that's the proper way to do it--very quickly and at the same speed. Even his pauses seemed like he didn't stop but was still going. Maybe that's how the form is supposed to be done. Dunno. But, the man obviously knows his stuff, and has known it for a very long time, no doubt about that.
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Hi all,
The kid is ok but the form really does not have any kind of flavor. It's just rushed all the way through. There should be stops at various parts of the form to accentuate certain techniques. Also, he should play with the tempo. Some moves can be done really fast to show the speed but others should be done a little slower and with more intent at the end of the technique to show power.
By the way, not for nothing but I doubt that it is a traditional mantis form. "Shaolin Jow Gar" should be the tipoff. Like Manuel said, Jow Gar is a traditional southern style although it does have some northern style moves. It's more like the Hung Gar style and none of their forms look like the form that is played here. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's a different Jow Gar I never heard of. If that is the case then please accept my apologies for the "not traditional" statement.
Peace
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Anybody seen the Shorin Ryu form/kata that the kid does also? Although it is done at a slower pace than the flying mantis form it is still way too fast for a karate form. There is absolutely no power/intent/focus.
The stances are way too high and do not seem to be rooted. From my past experience with karate styles and from observing other karatekas I know that the katas are to be done with power and the stances should be strong. I hate to sound so critical but he is young and if all he hears is how good he looks doing forms then he will just keep doing them that way. He needs to capture the essence of the forms he is playing, otherwise he is just dancing. One more thing(sorry), I believe that if you are going to do a karate form you should wear a gi, not a kung fu uniform( in private I guess you could wear whatever you want but to perform in public is a different story)This also is a factor in how you play forms. You feel a certain way when you wear a gi, another way when you wear a chinese uniform or whatever. If you have ever done this you know what I mean. It is an aid in helping you feel the essence or spirit of the form you are playing. Anyway, time to stop rambling.
Peace
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That was a hell of a point you made there if I do say so myself Loki......
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Ditto Loki.
Gi with kung fu forms, Yifu with japanese forms, belts with yifu's, sashes with gi's...kills me; Glad you mentioned the naming practice as well. 'tis not a traditional form that I have ever heard of..
(but then I heard there are over 120 of them in some lineages, so what do I know).
The practitioner is fun to watch though & that is enough to win in far to many tournaments.
-RM
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The kid has good potential. However, he goes to fast and when you force the speed, you are not smooth. Also you don't know what you're aiming at. Some of the movements are nto aligned properly and the hand positions are a little off. That means you don't know the applications. Find another sifu.
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AWW come on guys give the kid a break!!!
you all are like a bunch of musicians sitting around telling each you couldve done that song better.. the kid is only 14 and i have to say that he probably looks alot better than any of you did at that age,still
pickin your nose and not peeing straight. i doubt it if any of the others trashing the kid arent out of thier teens yet
anyway. HEY NOSPAM,,,,Nice form, you are exactly where you need to be at this stage in your developement. keep it up! your form reminds me of the first mantis form i learned
years ago"fist of the crushing step" or bung-bo. here is some advice from a teacher in his late 20's. POWER POWER POWER train. start now while your muscles are still developing. it will make the forms you do all that much better and will help you to utilize them in a confrontation,,,,,,AND gain favor with the judges at the tournaments. i am impressed, Jason
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drunkenostrich, you addressed nospam as if he is the one who is doing the form. I don't think so since he says in one of his posts "that's what I thought while watching him" referring to the person doing the form.
I can't speak for anyone else here but I do not feel that anyone has said anything too negative. It can all be taken as constructive criticism. He is young and can develop into an exceptional martial artist. The only thing that I really questioned was the authenticity of the form itself. Like I said before, as far as I know there is no form in the Jow Gar system called 'flying mantis'. This form has a northern look to it whereas Jow Gar is a southern style. Also, I am a 7* mantis practitioner and I cannot agree with you when you say that this form resembles Bung Bo in any way. I have observed different versions of Bung Bo from other branches of mantis and this form does not look like any of them. Would you like to share how this form reminds you of Bung Bo. If not, that is ok.
Peace
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I did not say that it resembled the bung-bo form i learned, i just said that watching the kid reminded me of when i first learned bung-bo,,,,i was remeniscing loki. the form does look northern. maybe the translation of the form is off,,never heard Of "flying mantis" myself. and oh i just read the post that confirms that nospam is not the kid doing the form,,,,,,my mistake....oops. well if the kid gets on the forum and reads this then there it is.
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