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Oh yeah... we're holding folks in GITMO because we just want to, right? How about Canada help us out and adopt these poor, lost souls, eh? They ARE free to a good home. Too bad the rest of the world refuses to take them. Including your loving nation. Don't criticize if you're part of the problem.
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We did not rig that election. Yes, the guy we wanted to win did win, but we did not rig that election. Now alot of people are saying that nutbar leader in Iran right now just won a rigged election.Originally Posted by KC Elbows
And we did not rig the elections in Iraq either.
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
Is very uneasy
If they start crashing planes into you guys' buildings and killing thousands of your innocent civilians, I'm betting you would think differently.
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
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Yes, we did.
Is very uneasy
Which election are you thinking of? I don't believe the Shah ever won an election, but I could be wrong.
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
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I stand corrected, we overthrew the elected leader of Iran to reinstate the Shah, which still means that both 1) democratic institutions were in place in the region, and 2) We subverted them for our own interests.
The first is important, because it suggests that people in the region do have awareness of democratic principles, and even may be aware of value to them we don't, since we've not had our system so manipulated by outside forces, and second, that we, who should value them so much more, didn't, and so it isn't a given that our conception of democracy is more mature or better than theirs, just more free from outside interference, and less driven to extremes by fear of repeats. A similar argument, re:they don't understand why democracy is good, was often used against5 the Chinese, both nationalists and communists, but the reality was, most Chinese were not going to choose dependency on the US or other Western powers when most of them had quite recently adequately proven they couldn't be trusted in that role to look out for any but their own interests, and so most sided with the Communists, while Jiang, himself unable to control much of China, and never, before the departure to Taiwan, seen as much more than a warlord from an era of warlords, a description that, pre Taiwan, was spot on, had to cede the rest of the country.
On the flip side, any group that holds a fundamental and thus non-critical approach to following an ancient text is a danger to democracy. If someone's book says some moderate person I know is going to hell, should be persecuted, is an infidel, can be kept as a slave, and the followers are completely unable to either discount this as from a bygone era or simply expunge it from the book, I fail to see how they can take part in a functioning democracy. However, if two cultures that have such in their midst, in prominent roles, get in a tiff, neither can point the finger on that issue without cleaning their own house. Thus, an additional pressure during the sixties to establish greater equality for women and minorities was the stinging criticism from the soviets on those issues.
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Dude, Canadians died in that hit.
It was the "world trade center" after all.
Kung Fu is good for you.
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