Originally Posted by
KC Elbows
Up until now, most videos involving wc vs. mma have not yeilded statements about wc as a style.
Why?
If you honestly examine these vids, you will se the majority involve people who either, faced with common aggression, basic technique, and non-compliance, do no technique whatsoever, or do one or two techniques and then cease to do so in the face of opposition they aren't used to.
A fighter who, facing a setback, does nothing, is encapsulating no style whatsoever, nor common sense.
This is a result of the difficulty of training a blend of ranges, and the culture until recently in tma schools. The main way to train techniques was often form and apps. Neither adequately addresses the hidden other, the opponent's choices, nor do they provide adequate means, on their own, for developing responses and ingraining them, because conceptual knowledge only tells you what you should ingrain, it does not ingrain it for you.
Essentially, fighting is like ****ing. There are those who pay no attention to the other person's motions, who merely have their goals and no technical means to achieve them aside from untrained force. No one really admires them or enjoys the experience, and cheap victory has replaced the more substantial benefits of awareness and virtuosity. In the end, no worthwhile partner will settle for this. Paired with compliant, barely semi-skilled lessers, such people can go nowhere truly interesting.
Then there are some who know some actions and responses, adequate for their goals, and they can have good fun with the experience, and, if they are aware of their own ability, and are modest and enjoy the experience, they can pair off with equals and those with more skill.
Then, there are those with amazing skill. They have chosen to engage with others, faced a variety of skillsets and preferences, faced their shortcomings, learned to move with the other where that is best, where to take the other where that is best, and learned to admire skill and honest effort over external signifiers of the appearance of ability by knowing that the path to skill requires honest effort. Everyone wants to know what they know, everyone wants to be with them, and only the jealous begrudge them their skill. Masturbatory practices, like all the related acts, are only parts of the way they learned.
Only an idiot would suggest that the problem with the loner is that they masturbate wrong. The problem is that they fail to translate the practice into acts of mutual excitement, learn to deal with that excitement, and thus, come to be truly communicating with the other and not just losing themselves in the excitement; seeing the other's acts and spontaneously blending with them, parting from them, they utilize the angles and exertion perfectly in relation to the union.
To indict style in an issue of fighters actually responding to other fighters is like indicting masturbation in an issue of responding to a lover: it simply is not the most likely course.
What's worse, wing chun guys use wooden dummies, AND THAT'S WRONG.