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    Quote Originally Posted by SanHeChuan View Post
    Prisons are an institution that I don’t think should be run by private corporations, and they aren't, does that make them socialist institutions?
    Actually there are private sector run/owned prisons in this country.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowDog View Post
    Oh, and I had to laugh when I read that you said Rush changed from saying he would go to Costa Rica for medical care and go to New Zealand instead.
    Rush took the next few days off to research various countries healthcare systems. Unlike Obama and the House Democrats, he researches things before he makes decisions.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    NEWSFLASH.. Prostitution is LEGAL in Costa Rica and some parts of the Dominican Republic.
    So is everyone who vacations there is looking to pick up hookers? Get real.

    It just shows how far into the gutter you liberals go in a political debate. Argue on the issues, not on unsubstantiated bs about people's personal lives. And Rush is not even an elected official.

    They just caught Charles Rangel cheating on his taxes over a house he owns in the Dominaican Republic. He admitted he did it. Where is your outrage about that? Instead you harp on a guy because of where he vacations. You don't see me saying Rangel must be doing this or doing that because he owns a house in the DR. Stop being a partisan hack and discuss/debate the issues like an adult.

    One more slanderous post on Rush (or anyone else), and you're on ignore. We have debated for months, and I always answer you like an adult. I don't drag the debate into the gutter, and I expect the same courtesy from you.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Actually there are private sector run/owned prisons in this country.
    I live about 3 miles from one. There is a sign in front of my neighborhood that says "Hitchhikers might be escaping inmates!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Rush took the next few days off to research various countries healthcare systems. Unlike Obama and the House Democrats, he researches things before he makes decisions.
    Yet he is apposed to socialized medicine and researching only countries WITH socialized medicine?????

    Oh yeah, because all other progressive countries on the planet already have socialized medicine.

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    [QUOTE=dimethylsea;1001884]NEWSFLASH.. Prostitution is LEGAL in Costa Rica and some parts of the Dominican Republic.

    Ironically it's also legal in New Zealand.......maybe this is what he is checking out instead of healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post

    One more slanderous post on Rush (or anyone else), and you're on ignore. We have debated for months, and I always answer you like an adult. I don't drag the debate into the gutter, and I expect the same courtesy from you.
    Go ahead and hit the ignore switch.

    I heard from a friend of a friend that Rush was outside the country when David Carradine died and rumor has it he was beating off to the noose show when the whole thing went sour and David croaked in the Bangkok hotel room.

    How's that for slander you prude!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Actually there are private sector run/owned prisons in this country.
    And the thought of private companies possessing the force of law to kidnap and cage citizens is enough to make me chew nails.

    HANG THEM. HANG THEM NOW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    And the thought of private companies possessing the force of law to kidnap and cage citizens is enough to make me chew nails.
    They still have to be convicted by a jury of their peers (or plead guilty) before being sent to any prison.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Actually there are private sector run/owned prisons in this country.
    I thought there were, I didn't fact check good enough on that statement. Shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanHeChuan View Post
    I thought there were, I didn't fact check good enough on that statement. Shame.
    It happens. At least you have the stones to admit when you are mistaken. I refuse to debate with people who cannot admit this. While we disagree alot, you have shown an admirable quality in my eyes.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    It happens. At least you have the stones to admit when you are mistaken. I refuse to debate with people who cannot admit this. While we disagree alot, you have shown an admirable quality in my eyes.
    You need to check your ego a bit if you think that your approval of someone is worth anything here on a forum where you get bagged on a lot for your neo-con ditto head position on pretty much every topic and to add to the fact that the only topics you are interested in are those where you defend the GOP or ridicule the dems and the potus, which makes you a hack and a shill for someone.

    But if you aren't getting money for your contrived protestations, then I would have to say that you are short sighted there as well, because you must realize by now that such talk never produces persuasion, it always produces bad feelings and ill will towards each other because of the inability for any political conversation to ever come to any sort of understanding.

    hence voting and hence the transformation of democracy into a dictatorship of the majority which is exactly what it is in almost every form by which it is practiced by every country that calls itself a democracy.

    political discussion is not discussion at all. It is argument at best and a useless quarrel in most other forms. It is the same with religion.

    If you want to have a pleasant political discussion that will get anywhere, then you all have to be of the same leanings and the Q&A will be around cabinet type decisions or Caucus meeting Q&A. All else is just divisive and unproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    if you think that your approval of someone is worth anything here
    I disagree, remaining civil is important. As long as heads stay cool the debate can continue. And it is in my interests to keep the debate going for as long as possible. I have no allusions that I will change 1bad65 mind on any issue, and that is not my goal. Debate challenges me to back up opinions with facts, to continue to stay informed, and to seek out new information. It is a learning process unto itself, not to mention entertaining. Debating with 1bad65 has galvanized me to get more active in the causes I support including charities and the political process; Making donations, Writing representatives who aren’t listening (Darn you Rick Perry ::shakes fist:: ) and you bet I’ll be showing up at the polls in November, just in the hopes of proving him and everyone who thinks like him wrong.

    Just because I disagree with 1bad65 doesn’t mean I need to demonize him as a person. Do you hate your sparring partners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    You need to check your ego a bit if you think that your approval of someone is worth anything here on a forum where you get bagged on a lot for your neo-con ditto head position on pretty much every topic and to add to the fact that the only topics you are interested in are those where you defend the GOP or ridicule the dems and the potus, which makes you a hack and a shill for someone.
    Chill bro.

    I'm not getting a big head or anything like that. Honest, after I read his post, it really sank in how much more rational San is compared to people like BD. If that idiot was told by someone he idolized that 2+2=5, no amount of rational discussion would ever change that guy's mind.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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