Very interesting drawing, my old teacher used to refer to same thing simple as shoulder line, "sunk elbow position" and center
now ,you got a taste of it , you can answer him !
Don't hold your breath Joy. Still waiting for Jox to answer a question on his other thread.
Fwiw, how can some one who's only met with Moshie once really answer anyway.
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Original wing chun
Moshe (M) has been writing about Ng Chan wing chun, as authentic one.
It is true.
M did not explain the system
He presented the text written by si-fu Pun, which was translated by forum member (I think it is Chee).
Everyone interested to read it, it is here:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/jox-o...09980289055137
There is no other technical explanations in English language.
M did not authenticate his claims with clips
He did the clip, but was deleted soon after (except some dummy and punch).
There is no other instructional clips made by M.
Criticism about not showing original
M says, late master Ng Chan did not show the real thing in the clips.
What I experienced in si fu Pun school, forms are performed differently.
Chi sao is done with different frequency and power.
Answer (HK) relating differences.
Late master Ng Chan wing chun changed with his age.
Author of the text speculate, that masters sometimes did the stuff differently in front of the cam, as they really did. But he says, we can not know for sure...
Not sure if M met in person
There is a picture on the thread, M with late master Ng Chan and si-fu Pun.
But I think, he hasn´t met with other performers, relating to Ng Chan wing chun.
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Jox, [/QUOTE]
I DID MET MOST OF THE CLOSE STUDENTS OF NG CHAN WHEN I WENT TO HONG KONG, BEFORE HE RETIRED BUT THIS IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE QUALITY OF THEIR PERSONAL PRACTISE AND THEIR APTITUDE TO UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM.
JOX , I THINK THAT AFTER OUR TRAINING ,SOME PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM ARE JUST EXPECTING FROM YOU TO SAY
IF YOU DID SEE SOMETHING SINGULAR IN MY WAY TO PRACTISE
IF MY WAY TO PRACTISE IS IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT IM WRITING
IF ITS WORKING WELL
REGARDS
I hate this kind of article. It points out problem without giving solution. If one is not willing to share, he should not write an article about it.
I'll try to translate the main points here. I add the (...) as my personal opinion.
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- The WC power generation doesnot come from the ground but come from the muscle strinking and expanding.
- To generate power from the ground requires 6 harmony which is good for single Fajin. Your whole body is working together as one purpose only. The problem is it can only be used for "single point striking (like rifle)".
- WC wants to be more than single point striking (like machine gun). The problem is since your body is not unified, your power generation will be weak.
- Since WC utilizes muscle power. It's important to train muscle. But you should not train like body builder (with muscle group isolation and constant speed). You should develop your muscle with explosive power (with muscle coordination and bell curve speed).
- When you punch, you will require one muscle to expand while the other muscle to shrink. If both muscle can work together, you will generate more power. If both muscle don't work together or work against each other, you will generate less power (this is the problem for muscle group isolation).
- Many people train their WC forms by using Taiji principle. This is why some people want to call WC as IMA. Others train their WC forms by using Hong Chuan principle. This is why we have seen so many WC systems today.
- My teacher demonstrated the WC power on me. I was amazing for it's killing power. He told me that it should not be taught to just anybody.
- My teacher wants the true WC power generation method to stay in China.
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 08-22-2012 at 01:02 PM.
I'm not a Hong Chuan guy. It's a southern TCMA system. The tiger and crane form is famous in that system.
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&s...r:10,s:0,i:107