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    Video vs. Franchise MA schools

    I found this video interesting. I have some comments but I'll save it until some of you weight in.

    "The truth behind martial arts franchise schools exposed"

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvAiSaBGaj8

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5UE76TcADo
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    franchise schools... LOL... i can think of one from new york... these people view martial arts as a business and that's all fine and dandy, but it doesn't make them a good martial artist because they have a few schools - it makes them a good business person. you should see what some passes as an online video instruction... there's this one numbnut who plays with a sledgehammer, but his strength is infantile. hehehe...

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    Watching his other videos, it looks like this guy in general has a problem with turning martial arts into a commercial business, which is an old argument.

    If Doc Fai Wong didn't have a franchise, I'm guessing this dude would not have the CLF knowledge he does now (he didn't do the best job concealing where he had his franchise involvement).
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    interesting stuff.. a lot of this applies to sales. rehearsed dialogue, knowing how to counter typical questions. the question then comes, how does a school grow its business without similar tactics? usually a school grows and dies when the teacher dies.
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    Both videos amounted to whining sessions because the idea of having a commerce aspect to martial arts.

    There were a lot of misconceptions expressed and heaping helpings of projections of that individuals ideas about how things "should" be.

    I found the videos to be fairly egotistical in scope and more than a bit whiny.

    It's a tired old argument and there is nothing new to say about it apparently.
    I personally so not support those views.

    people will do as they will and it is their prerogative to do so just as it may be your
    prerogative to not bother with them. :-)
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    chinese jesus hong xiou quan would not have approved of franchises. if he was alive he would crush them without mercy then take all their womans as his concubine


    personally i think theres nothing wrong with a kung fu franchise, but only if u earned it.
    i think gracies definitely deserve franchise. great master tu jing shen deserves a franchise because he pulled a airplane with his peenis. what did doc fei wong and sin the ever do? i dont know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    . what did doc fei wong and sin the ever do? i dont know.
    Actually, Doc Fai-Wong has been a huge driving force in promoting Traditional Chinese Martial Arts for decades. I have followed his articles and books ever since 1973 Inside Kung-Fu first featured him. His articles were extremely informative, and he brought ideas and concepts to the general non-Chinese public from behind the "Bamboo Curtain." His book on CLF is still one of the best books in English on Southern Gung-Fu. In it, he outlines strikes, usage as well as two beginner forms, Ng Lun Ma and Ng Lun Choy in explicit detail.
    His article on Dit Da Jow was possibly the first to actually share full formulas and instructions of making it.
    He was also the first to have instructional videos on CLF, broken down in regular speed, slow motion, different angles as well as applications.

    oh, and No, I am not, nor have ever been connected with his organization. I simply have been involved in MA for over 35 yrs, and appreciate his contributions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    chinese jesus hong xiou quan would not have approved of franchises. if he was alive he would crush them without mercy then take all their womans as his concubine


    personally i think theres nothing wrong with a kung fu franchise, but only if u earned it.
    i think gracies definitely deserve franchise. great master tu jing shen deserves a franchise because he pulled a airplane with his peenis. what did doc fei wong and sin the ever do? i dont know.
    GM DFW has been an awesome teacher. If he's in it for the money, he hasn't been collecting much from me. GM DFW also helped rebuild and restore a number of CLF sites, and has been promoting the art globally for decades. I admire him as a martial artist and a genuinely good person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Both videos amounted to whining sessions because the idea of having a commerce aspect to martial arts.

    There were a lot of misconceptions expressed and heaping helpings of projections of that individuals ideas about how things "should" be.

    I found the videos to be fairly egotistical in scope and more than a bit whiny.

    It's a tired old argument and there is nothing new to say about it apparently.
    I personally so not support those views.

    people will do as they will and it is their prerogative to do so just as it may be your
    prerogative to not bother with them. :-)
    well said. sounds like a whiney, spoiled child.
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    Yeah, big suprise! The guy who can't afford his own school and teaches in the park hates people that have nice schools with mats to protect their students.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaolindynasty View Post
    I found this video interesting. I have some comments but I'll save it until some of you weight in.

    "The truth behind martial arts franchise schools exposed"

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvAiSaBGaj8

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5UE76TcADo

    HAHAH....That's USSD's business model.
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