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    hua jin and Fa jin

    Would you like to share your experience on how to cultivate hua jin (dissolve jin) and fa jin (issuing jin)?

    May be it is good to start with the definition of what is hua jin and fa jin and continous on to the process of how this phenomenon manifest by one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Would you like to share your experience on how to cultivate hua jin (dissolve jin) and fa jin (issuing jin)?

    May be it is good to start with the definition of what is hua jin and fa jin and continous on to the process of how this phenomenon manifest by one.
    You first! Why would anyone want to answer you when all you do is condescend in return?

    Define the terms yourself and then tell us how you train them.

    Then we will be happy to correct you and condescend to you!

    If you want to know what I have to say about fa jin, do a search. I wrote something about it about 6 or 7 years ago.

    But FIRST

    YOU tell us what YOU think about!

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    how to get fajin

    1. stand in front of sand bag
    2. hit it
    3. ???
    4. get fajin
    Last edited by bawang; 04-05-2010 at 05:46 AM.

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    Hey!! You took out your purple cow reference....now my post doesn't make any sense!

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    i dont know what u r talking about. there is no purple cow.

    ur crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    i dont know what u r talking about. there is no purple cow.

    ur crazy
    Well, that explains everything then...thank you for clearing that up for me!

    You are wiser than Hendrik and do your sifu proud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R. Brown View Post
    Well, that explains everything then...thank you for clearing that up for me!

    You are wiser than Hendrik and do your sifu proud!


    You generate so much noise as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    how to get fajin

    1. stand in front of sand bag
    2. hit it
    3. ???
    4. get fajin
    That's better than hitting in the thin air as most of the "performers" do and that's for sure. We still need to traing:

    - How to create a chace for Fajin.
    - Where to hit.
    - Use which part of our body to hit.

    We should not talk about MA as "solo" without the reference of "opponent". During discussion, it's too easy to lead the discussion into "performance", "health", "meditation" and away from "combat".

    1st it's difficult to use Hua (dissolve) Jin to dissolve a punch to your head or a kick to your knee. 2nd it's easier to move out of the way and then borrow the force than try to "dissolve" it. Dissolve means "make it disapper" which violate the principle of "borrow your opponent's force to against your opponent". If your opponent loans you $500 and you just throw it into toilet, it won't do anybody any good.
    Last edited by YouKnowWho; 04-05-2010 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    You generate so much noise as usual.
    What do you do.......in order to not waste your last few brain cells you just post the same thing on every thread?

    Try thinking up a new insult for each thread, or your posts become the noise you complain about, just like everything else all you know is how to hypocrisy!

    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    That's better than hitting in the thin air as most of the "performers" do and that's for sure. We still need to traing:

    - How to create a chace for Fajin.
    - Where to hit.
    - Use which part of our body to hit.

    We should not talk about MA as "solo" without the reference of "opponent". During discussion, it's too easy to lead the discussion into "performance", "health", "meditation" and away from "combat".

    1st it's difficult to use Hua (dissolve) Jin to dissolve a punch to your head or a kick to your knee. 2nd it's easier to move out of the way and then borrow the force than try to "dissolve" it. Dissolve means "make it disapper" which violate the principle of "borrow your opponent's force to against your opponent". If your opponent loans you $500 and you just throw it into toilet, it won't do anybody any good.
    Nice post and good points.

    Hitting air can never demonstrate proper power.

    Power and dissolve always depends upon ones base and balance. Force is generated according to these.

    The best way to dissolve a force to the head is to meet the force. Proper timing is a must. Just as the strike is about to meet your skull abruptly in a sharp movement of about only one to two inches, move towards the force. This breaks the timing of the incoming force and reduces the power. It can also break the fist and/or wrist of the assailant if timed properly.

    Of course, one must focus the impact you receive to the harder portions of your skull and not your jaw. You could do it with your nose, but it will still most likely break....and hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post

    1st it's difficult to use Hua (dissolve) Jin to dissolve a punch to your head or a kick to your knee. 2nd it's easier to move out of the way and then borrow the force than try to "dissolve" it. Dissolve means "make it disapper" which violate the principle of "borrow your opponent's force to against your opponent". If your opponent loans you $500 and you just throw it into toilet, it won't do anybody any good.

    borrowing force is reverse throws and counter punching. dissolving is parrying and evading.
    Last edited by bawang; 04-05-2010 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    borrowing force is reverse throws and counter punching. dissolving is parrying and evading.
    What would you call biting! Tasting the opponents Chi?

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    hua jin dissolving force actually means putting ice cubes up your anus and letting them melt "dissolve". this greatly increases your qi especially if you practice siu nim tao very slow at the same time.
    if you dont have ice u can use sugar molasses carrots etc
    Last edited by bawang; 04-05-2010 at 11:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    hua jin dissolving force actually means putting ice cubes up your anus and letting them melt "dissolve". this greatly increases your qi especially if you practice siu nim tao very slow at the same time.
    if you dont have ice u can use sugar molasses carrots etc
    stop revealing Hendrick's secret training regimen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn View Post
    stop revealing Hendrick's secret training regimen!
    Now that you said that I have to take the ice cubes out of my butt.......good thing I didn't try the molasses carrots first!

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    is dissolving and issuing really that different?

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