Foes of Tea Party movement to plan to infiltrate them

[1bad65]

You actualy did it, you poor fool.

I'd rather be a fool than run my mouth and then not have the balls to bet someone who says I'm wrong.

[Reality_Check]

Forced out by who? She had every legal right to be on that ballot, she chose to drop out.

Whom, not who.

Forced out by a lack of money as those who would have donated to her campaign donated to Doug Hoffman's instead.

They stood by their morals. That used to a trait we admired in people.

Again, had the Republicans nominated someone with similar beliefs as the Republican who vacated the seat, Hoffman wouldn't have ran. The people there did not want a lberal, yet the Republicans nominated one. Conservatives (unlike many Democrat demographics), do not go to the polls and just pull the lever simply due to the letter on it. We tend to vote on issues, not mainly along Party lines.

Stood by their morals? That's awesome! So, instead of having someone that the local Republican leadership (you know, the people who know the district?) chose, people from out of state thought they knew better, and it cost the Republicans the seat. An ideological purity test ended up being a failure. We'll see if further such tests cost them more elections.

[David Jamieson]

Which shows I admit when I was incorrect.




Screw you. You've repeatedly called me a racist, and called the Tea Party folks racists as well.

One more thing; Are you admitting to trolling?

more chest puffing and posing.

This is your MO dude.

You can be read like a book, although your substance would make it more like a pamphlet. From the day you dragged yourself in here from trollshido.

Yes I called tea party members racist. You know, the ones with teh epithets they shout and the signs they hold that are photographed with their out and out hatred and racism? Yeah those guys.

You, I put you into the category of racist by proxy because you throw in with the tasteless pack of fools who ARE racist..

I guess you figure you're some kind of internet warrior though. I mean, I really do think that seeing as that is how your present yourself and make the content of your posts.

pretty much nothing but propaganda for the right wing.

Virtually zero posts about chinese martial arts.

at least you're hanging around in the dumpster now.

[1bad65]

Forced out by a lack of money as those who would have donated to her campaign donated to Doug Hoffman's instead.

So the people were speaking through their campaign donations that Hoffman was much more electable. She wasn't going to win, period. However, the fact that she endorsed the Democrat over Hoffman truly shows her liberal leanings.

Stood by their morals? That's awesome! So, instead of having someone that the local Republican leadership (you know, the people who know the district?) chose, people from out of state thought they knew better, and it cost the Republicans the seat. An ideological purity test ended up being a failure. We'll see if further such tests cost them more elections.

I think you have it backwards. I believe she was not chosen by the local Republicans. I think it was the national GOP who chose her. And the local Republicans wanted Hoffman to run. Remember, there was no primary in either Party.

Something else of interest: "The chair of the New York Democratic Party stated that Scozzafava's husband had spoken with key local Democrats about the possibility of her switching to the Democratic Party before running for the seat."
Source:
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dai...mes-of-sc.html

[Reality_Check]

That's one of my points. In many areas, the Democrat Owens was more conservative than the Republican Scozzafava.

I missed this one. Do you have any evidence that Bill Owens is more conservative than Dede Scozzafava? Especially considering that he voted for HCR.

[1bad65]

more chest puffing and posing.

And more ducking from you.

This is your MO dude.

And we can see your MO involves calling people you dont agree with racists. You're an *******, and an ******* who can't debate on the issues.

Yes I called tea party members racist. You know, the ones with teh epithets they shout and the signs they hold that are photographed with their out and out hatred and racism? Yeah those guys.

You, I put you into the category of racist by proxy because you throw in with the tasteless pack of fools who ARE racist..

And yet you provided NOT ONE example of a racist speaker ant ANY Tea Party event. Also, I showed liberals admitting they use plants at Tea Parties to make them look racist. So you're either ignorant of the facts, or you choose to keep calling names because you can't debate on the issues. Which is it?

I guess you figure you're some kind of internet warrior though. I mean, I really do think that seeing as that is how your present yourself and make the content of your posts.

You are matching me post for post. And you're the one who started the name-calling.

at least you're hanging around in the dumpster now.

And I found you here as well.

[Reality_Check]

I think you have it backwards. I believe she was not chosen by the local Republicans. I think it was the national GOP who chose her. And the local Republicans wanted Hoffman to run. Remember, there was no primary in either Party.

Actually no, you have it backwards.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...or_congre.html

"State Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava beat out a field of eight other Republicans on Wednesday to pick up the GOP endorsement for the 23rd Congressional District seat...

The six-term Assembly member picked up the endorsement Wednesday after a meeting of the 11 Republican county committee chairs, who had interviewed the candidates at a series of regional meetings over the past month.

The chairs said they were impressed with Scozzafava's experience, commitment, service and dedication to the region. She has been a lifelong resident of the North Country.

Jim Ellis, the Franklin County and Northern Region vice chairman who oversaw the nomination process, said Scozzafava is the right person to succeed nine-term Rep. John McHugh, R-Pierrepont Manor."

[1bad65]

I missed this one. Do you have any evidence that Bill Owens is more conservative than Dede Scozzafava? Especially considering that he voted for HCR.

I said in some areas, not all areas.

She is pro-death on abortion, pro- same sex marriage, and she has strong Union ties. And again, she considered switching parties before the election.

[Reality_Check]

And yet you provided NOT ONE example of a racist speaker ant ANY Tea Party event.

Um...I did. Not to get in between the love fest or anything...

So I guess Carl Paladino is just a plant, huh?

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wn...s.into.Buffalo

"Among the speakers will be Buffalo developer Carl Paladino, who just announced he's running for governor."

http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/04/1...ng-racist.html

"Buffalo's Carl P. Paladino was scrambling to save his Republican candidacy for governor Monday after a local Web site released a string of pornographic and racially degrading e-mails that he acknowledged forwarding to a large group of friends."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...99-503544.html

"A Tea Party darling, Paladino reportedly sent an e-mail depicting a horse having sex with a woman and another that included a pornographic video and the headline 'Miss France 2008 F[***]ing.' He also reportedly sent out an e-mail depicting President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama as a pimp and prostitute and one showing an airplane landing near black men with the caption 'Holy Sh*t. run ni**ers, run!'


After one respondent complained that the 'Obama Inauguration Rehearsal' e-mail was 'flat-out racist,' Paladino reportedly replied, 'I apologize to you and everyone if that is offensive. to me its just humor. i'm not racist and have never related obamas color to my political distaste for him.'


The Buffalo News reports that Paladino did not deny sending the e-mails at an event today. He called them 'just another liberal Democrat blog smear.'"

[Reality_Check]

I said in some areas, not all areas.

She is pro-death on abortion, pro- same sex marriage, and she has strong Union ties. And again, she considered switching parties before the election.

And Bill Owens is anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, and the Unions don't like him?

[1bad65]

Actually no, you have it backwards.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...or_congre.html

"State Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava beat out a field of eight other Republicans on Wednesday to pick up the GOP endorsement for the 23rd Congressional District seat...

I don't see where it references a primary. Can you point that out please?

The six-term Assembly member picked up the endorsement Wednesday after a meeting of the 11 Republican county committee chairs, who had interviewed the candidates at a series of regional meetings over the past month.

The chairs said they were impressed with Scozzafava's experience, commitment, service and dedication to the region. She has been a lifelong resident of the North Country.

Jim Ellis, the Franklin County and Northern Region vice chairman who oversaw the nomination process, said Scozzafava is the right person to succeed nine-term Rep. John McHugh, R-Pierrepont Manor."

Were these 11 Republican county committee chairs residents of the 23rd Congressional District?

[1bad65]

And Bill Owens is anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, and the Unions don't like him?

What part of "in some areas" are you not getting? I believe she has a higher rating from NOW than Owens does.

Either way, can you name 1 GOP Congressman who is pro-death on abortion, and pro gay marriage? I cant....

[David Jamieson]

And more ducking from you.

I ducked nothing. I pointed out your challenge was empty and moot and I refuse to play. There's a difference.

And we can see your MO involves calling people you don't agree with racists. You're an *******, and an ******* who can't debate on the issues.

My final arguments or even discussions weren't about you being racist. That was a small bit that revealed itself in the course of events as they took place.

And yet you provided NOT ONE example of a racist speaker ant ANY Tea Party event. Also, I showed liberals admitting they use plants at Tea Parties to make them look racist. So you're either ignorant of the facts, or you choose to keep calling names because you can't debate on the issues. Which is it?

Are you saying there's no racism in the tea parties? I'm saying there is and whether or not shadowy liberals are planting themselves in there is irrelevant. The bottom line is that much of the sentiment of the tea party diatribes is racist. Any good points are lost in this stain. Kind of like what has happened with Rush Limbaugh. When he first started way back in the 80's/90's he was great! Now it's a complete 180 and he's a fat drug addicted weirdo ranting and raving! Following the first Gulf war, I actually admired him as a pundit with good points and strong criticisms. Now, he's a joke and a shell of his former self and a detriment to conservatism in North America. Seriously man, I don't think these people have a clue as to what a conservative is. I don't think you know what a liberal is either.

You are matching me post for post. And you're the one name-calling.

lol sure 1bad. You do realize there are plenty of examples of you spewing invectives at me in this thread right?

And I found you here as well.

yup, I like to see what people are throwing away now and then. I would wager that you will find more iof my posts in the other forums and most of them dealing with chinese martial arts as is the flavour here though.

and you?

[1bad65]

Um...I did. Not to get in between the love fest or anything...

So how in the world is the average Tea Party member supposed to know the content of his e-mails?

I asked for a speaker spouting racism from the podium. And also, is this guy still invited to Tea Party events? I'd wager he is not.

[1bad65]

I'm saying there is and whether or not shadowy liberals are planting themselves in there is irrelevant.

That about sums you up.

lol sure 1bad. You do realize there are plenty of examples of you spewing invectives at me in this thread right?

If I repeatedly kept calling you and people you identify with a bunch of child molesters, I'd expect you to be pretty upset.

We have been civil in the past. And i'll be civil again if you stop calling me and the Tea Party folks racists. Of course if I post racism, or Tea Parties start having speakers spewing racism from the podium, feel free to call me/them racists.

Until then, I ask that you stop calling me/them racists.