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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    I just flipped my compost again last weekend and my noisy sun chip bag was still in there, right alongside my 'compostable' corn syrup cup.

    I couldn't find my corn syrup fork, so maybe that actually did decompose. Maybe it was just covered with compost as I didn't sift it. I just flipped it.

    Now I can't find those compostable sun chip bags anymore. I'm beginning to think sun chips had us on with that.
    i wonder if its compostable but only after like 20 years or so lol

    keep flippin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by uki View Post
    to think that mankind, as a species, can ultimately destroy the ecosystem of the planet is asinine... mother nature has an uncanny knack for putting things into their proper place - we as a general body, have been duped into thinking that our planet is somehow inferiour to it's inhabitants... LOL... i hope you all have some popcorn on hand - the show has already begun. *munch* *munch*
    I agree that humans will not be able to destroy the ecosystem of the planet; however, we are doing a darn fine job of making it less and less inhabitable for many species including ourselves; and yes, Mother Nature will put things into their proper place, which will include humans into the evolutionary dumpster; and Mother Nature will be FINE with that - "She" has no particular attachment to any species, does not subscribe to the belief that humans are the "superior" or "dominant" species - no, "She" will just do what she has always done - dance her dance of complexity, that of non-linear cause and effect;

    as far as being "duped", I offer this little bit of food for thought:
    contrarian hedge fund manager Jeremy Grantham,...in his July letter to investors, noted: “Conspiracy theorists claim to believe that global warming is a carefully constructed hoax driven by scientists desperate for ... what? Being needled by nonscientific newspaper reports, by blogs and by right-wing politicians and think tanks? I have a much simpler but plausible ‘conspiracy theory’: the fossil energy companies, driven by the need to protect hundreds of billions of dollars of profits, encourage obfuscation of the inconvenient scientific results. I, for one, admire them for their P.R. skills, while wondering, as always: “Have they no grandchildren?”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/op...me&ref=general

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    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn View Post
    I agree that humans will not be able to destroy the ecosystem of the planet; however, we are doing a darn fine job of making it less and less inhabitable for many species including ourselves; and yes, Mother Nature will put things into their proper place, which will include humans into the evolutionary dumpster; and Mother Nature will be FINE with that - "She" has no particular attachment to any species, does not subscribe to the belief that humans are the "superior" or "dominant" species - no, "She" will just do what she has always done - dance her dance of complexity, that of non-linear cause and effect;

    as far as being "duped", I offer this little bit of food for thought:
    contrarian hedge fund manager Jeremy Grantham,...in his July letter to investors, noted: “Conspiracy theorists claim to believe that global warming is a carefully constructed hoax driven by scientists desperate for ... what? Being needled by nonscientific newspaper reports, by blogs and by right-wing politicians and think tanks? I have a much simpler but plausible ‘conspiracy theory’: the fossil energy companies, driven by the need to protect hundreds of billions of dollars of profits, encourage obfuscation of the inconvenient scientific results. I, for one, admire them for their P.R. skills, while wondering, as always: “Have they no grandchildren?”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/op...me&ref=general
    I agree 100% with this post.

    Just watch penn and tellers BS show its a great show!
    Last edited by Kung; 07-26-2010 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn View Post
    I agree that humans will not be able to destroy the ecosystem of the planet; however, we are doing a darn fine job of making it less and less inhabitable for many species including ourselves; and yes, Mother Nature will put things into their proper place, which will include humans into the evolutionary dumpster; and Mother Nature will be FINE with that - "She" has no particular attachment to any species, does not subscribe to the belief that humans are the "superior" or "dominant" species - no, "She" will just do what she has always done - dance her dance of complexity, that of non-linear cause and effect;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn
    as far as being "duped", I offer this little bit of food for thought:
    contrarian hedge fund manager Jeremy Grantham,...in his July letter to investors, noted: “Conspiracy theorists claim to believe that global warming is a carefully constructed hoax driven by scientists desperate for ... what? Being needled by nonscientific newspaper reports, by blogs and by right-wing politicians and think tanks? I have a much simpler but plausible ‘conspiracy theory’: the fossil energy companies, driven by the need to protect hundreds of billions of dollars of profits, encourage obfuscation of the inconvenient scientific results. I, for one, admire them for their P.R. skills, while wondering, as always: “Have they no grandchildren?”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/op...me&ref=general
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    Although I agree with the view that the big energy companies are there to make money and exploit every thing and everyone in the process, I totally believe that the Man-made Global Warming theory is a scam, and many scientists seem to think so as well. If enough people are duped by this scam then the world population will be taxed and controlled, even more than it is now.

    Let's all be very careful when con-men such as Al Gore, start giving us advice.....

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    global warming?

    Here is what I believe on this topic:

    1. Our polar bears in Alaska are starving for lack of pack ice.
    2. Human activities contribute to global warming.
    3. Warm air holds more moisture than cold air.
    4. It has been an uncommonly rainy summer here.
    5. We are still in an "ice age" in an interglacial phase.

    What does this mean for future weather patterns? Hellifiknow. But couldn't we end up with a period of increased snowfall and advancing montain glaciers as we lose the drying effect of the polar caps? We could lose huge chunks of real estate, adding further to population pressures. Maybe I'll move south and become a Canuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhowland View Post
    Here is what I believe on this topic:

    1. Our polar bears in Alaska are starving for lack of pack ice.
    2. Human activities contribute to global warming.
    3. Warm air holds more moisture than cold air.
    4. It has been an uncommonly rainy summer here.
    5. We are still in an "ice age" in an interglacial phase.

    What does this mean for future weather patterns? Hellifiknow. But couldn't we end up with a period of increased snowfall and advancing montain glaciers as we lose the drying effect of the polar caps? We could lose huge chunks of real estate, adding further to population pressures. Maybe I'll move south and become a Canuck.
    Many people including specialist scientists believe that the cyclical temperature variations on this planet are directly effected with the size and frequency of sunspots. Their points of view are hardly aired by the media, or even considered by the con-men, including Al Gore, who are pressing for world regulations and taxes (read: policies contributing to a planned and eventual World Government/Dictatorship)

    Where I live in Colombia is going through an unusually rainy period. I am sure some one somewhere is saying that this is due to "Man-made, Global Warming.

    However, some old timers here are saying that up to the mid 1900s the temperature in this region was very wet and rainy. 9 to 1 says that their comments will never be heard.

    Recently, we have been made to watch tv adverts that tell us that cows breaking wind is a factor that contributes to "Global Warming".

    I believe that the masses are being treated like idiotic sheep and this scam is just one of the indicators. The "War on Terrorism", "The War on Drugs", and of course the constant threat from virus pandemics that are going to kill us all, unless we blindly do what our "caring" authorities tell us to do, are other indicators of the effort by authorities to control every aspects of our lives.
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    I totally believe that the Man-made Global Warming theory is a scam, and many scientists seem to think so as well.
    I know this is unheard of but I agree with you on this point. I have read a lot of the debates on this and many in the science community believe that the "global warming" theory is just that a theory. Preach all you will about the polar ice caps melting but the actual hard evidence of this is not factual. History proves that the earth goes through cycles and many scientists state that we are in a warmer one at the moment.

    I'm not going so far as the conspiracy theory crap but I will agree on this one point with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonzbane76 View Post
    I know this is unheard of but I agree with you on this point. I have read a lot of the debates on this and many in the science community believe that the "global warming" theory is just that a theory. Preach all you will about the polar ice caps melting but the actual hard evidence of this is not factual. History proves that the earth goes through cycles and many scientists state that we are in a warmer one at the moment.

    I'm not going so far as the conspiracy theory crap but I will agree on this one point with you.
    Well if you agree with me on the fact that Man-Made Global Warming is not a fact, then you must agree that it is a LIE. Who is telling (or selling) us this lie? Al Gore, and his backers!

    What happens if they manage to sell this lie to everyone? More taxes and more regulations that will restrict our daily lives, as well as global mechanisms (read: Global Government), to enforce the regulations and collect the taxes.

    How do I know this? I know this because the very people who are selling us this scam, SAY SO!

    NO sir, there is no conspiracy theory about this, only conspiracy FACT!

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    Polar bears extinct from chip bags

    I'm bummed. I liked those bags BECAUSE they were so noisy. The one in my compost still hasn't decomposed.

    SunChips tosses biodegradable packaging

    SunChips' whole brand identity is based on being a healthier, more environmentally friendly snack. The most substantial move Frito-Lay made to back those brand claims was to give the chips a biodegradable bag. But now the company is returning, at least temporarily, to conventional non-biodegradable, non-recyclable packaging.

    Frito-Lay

    The problem? The biodegradable packaging crinkled too loudly, because it's somewhat stiffer than the snack bags Americans are used to.

    Bear with me, this is actually kind of important. First, it shows that corporations will backtrack on green commitments when it suits them. (SunChips sales were not so crisp, but whether the bag was to blame or not is unclear.)

    According to Mother Jones blogger Kate Sheppard, SunChip-gate also shows just how little inconvenience American consumers are willing tolerate for the sake of the planet.

    But I think Sheppard misses the point. It's not that Americans organized and voted on the SunChips bag, when they couldn't be bothered to do the same for the climate legislation whose last chance at working has probably already passed. No, Frito-Lay almost certainly got its consumer feedback from paid focus groups on the topic of SunChips packaging.

    It's another case of blaming the people for failing to speak up when corporations have all the bullhorns.

    USA Today notes that many consumers say they want greener packaging and then turn up their noses at it if it's not what they're used to. Noisiness does seem like a bizarre reason to reject a bag of chips, of all things. But there are bad green designs and good green designs, and my bet is that consumers will go for the good ones if corporations are willing to stick by them.

    Have you eaten SunChips from the biodegradable bag? How loud is it?

    Posted By: Cameron Scott (Email, Twitter, Facebook) | October 06 2010 at 03:18 PM
    SunChips bag proves it not easy being 'green'
    Thursday, October 7, 2010

    Noisy bag proves it's not easy being 'green'

    -- What happens when being "green" also means being LOUD?

    In April 2009, Frito-Lay, the snack-chip company, announced that all the bags for its SunChips would be made from plant material, meaning the bags would leave no waste behind. The problem was the new bag had an unusual molecular structure that made it noisy.

    How noisy?

    -- So noisy that people compared opening a bag to the sounds of lawnmowers and jet engines.

    -- So noisy that SunChips sales have fallen by more than 11 percent in the past year.

    -- So noisy that Frito-Lay has decided to go back to the original packaging on most flavors.

    Frito-Lay says it will continue to try to find better ways to create environmentally friendly chip bags.
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    My experiment failed

    My wife grew tired of seeing that chip bag in the compost so she threw it out.

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    LOL!!!!!!! pwnd
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    sorry about the chip bag!

    Lowes is supposedly giving away a free baby tree on Earth Day this year?

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    Shoot. We missed last year...

    This year I'm not doing much to honor earth day - just telecommuting.

    I moved last year and rent out my old house, so I don't really know the fate of our old compost bin anymore. We have a small one at our new home, but we don't really have a garden space, so it's really just a perch for the neighborhood cats.

    Here's an odd tale forwarded to me today:

    Earth Day co-founder killed, composted girlfriend

    Ira Einhorn preached against Vietnam War and violence, but had dark side


    Michael J. Maicher / Temple University Libraries
    Ira Einhorn was the master of ceremonies at the first Earth Day rally on April 22, 1970.
    By Remy Melina
    updated 4/21/2011 8:19:26 PM ET


    Ira Einhorn was on stage hosting the first Earth Day event at the Fairmount Park in Philadelphia on April 22, 1970. Seven years later, police raided his closet and found the "composted" body of his ex-girlfriend inside a trunk.
    A self-proclaimed environmental activist, Einhorn made a name for himself among ecological groups during the 1960s and '70s by taking on the role of a tie-dye-wearing ecological guru and Philadelphia’s head hippie. With his long beard and gap-toothed smile, Einhorn — who nicknamed himself "Unicorn" because his German-Jewish last name translates to "one horn" —advocated flower power, peace and free love to his fellow students at the University of Pennsylvania. He also claimed to have helped found Earth Day.
    But the charismatic spokesman who helped bring awareness to environmental issues and preached against the Vietnam War — and any violence — had a secret dark side. When his girlfriend of five years, Helen "Holly" Maddux, moved to New York and broke up with him, Einhorn threatened that he would throw her left-behind personal belongings onto the street if she didn't come back to pick them up.
    And so on Sept. 9, 1977, Maddux went back to the apartment that she and Einhorn had shared in Philadelphia to collect her things, and was never seen again. When Philadelphia police questioned Einhorn about her mysterious disappearance several weeks later, he claimed that she had gone out to the neighborhood co-op to buy some tofu and sprouts and never returned.
    It wasn't until 18 months later that investigators searched Einhorn's apartment after one of his neighbors complained that a reddish-brown, foul-smelling liquid was leaking from the ceiling directly below Einhorn's bedroom closet. Inside the closet, police found Maddux's beaten and partially mummified body stuffed into a trunk that had also been packed with Styrofoam, air fresheners and newspapers.
    After his arrest, Einhorn jumped bail and spent decades evading authorities by hiding out in Ireland, Sweden, the United Kingdom and France. After 23 years, he was finally extradited to the United States from France and put on trial. Taking the stand in his own defense, Einhorn claimed that his ex-girlfriend had been killed by CIA agents who framed him for the crime because he knew too much about the agency's paranormal military research. He was convicted of murdering Maddux and is currently serving a life sentence.
    Although Einhorn was only the master of ceremonies at the first Earth Day event, he maintains that Earth Day was his idea and that he's responsible for launching it. Understandably, Earth Day's organizers have distanced themselves from his name, citing Gaylord Nelson, an environmental activist and former Wisconsin governor and U.S. senator who died in 2005, as Earth Day's official founder and organizer.
    According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Sen. Gaylord Nelson created Earth Day in the spring of 1970 as a way to bring national awareness to the fact that, at the time, there were no legal or regulatory mechanisms in place to protect the environment. About 20 million participants at various Earth Day events across the U.S. made Earth Day a success, and in December of 1970, Congress authorized the creation of a new federal agency to tackle environmental issues — the EPA.
    Packing someone in styrofoam does NOT count as composting, but it makes a more sensational headline.
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    We recycle plastic bags, bottles and other stuff. Also during Earth Hour, we turn off all our lights at home.

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    ttt 4 2015

    Another year, another day spent telecommuting. I don't plan to drive my car at all today, which will hardly balance my typical 45 mile commute, but at least it's something.

    This weekend I'm doing volunteer medical at Summit for the Planet, which is an Earth Day related walkathon. It'll be World Tai Chi & Qigong Day, but I'll wind up driving a lot because the Summit is many miles from San Francisco where I'll be that evening for Tan Dun's Martial Trilogy.
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