Go Arizona!

[1bad65]

Thank God someone finally took the lead in enforcing our immigration laws. Because of this law, Arizona residents will soon be much safer than they are now.

Source:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=146341

[David Jamieson]

Thank God someone finally took the lead in enforcing our immigration laws. Because of this law, Arizona residents will soon be much safer than they are now.

Source:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=146341

I think it will turn into a mexican standoff.

[MightyB]

Like it or not, there is a war going on at the Mexican/US border. All other border states need to follow suite with Arizona. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...RYpOgD9F9EG600

This is a war that will spill onto US soil if we don't take action now. It has already cost the lives of a couple of Americans and their very young families.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar...gs15-2010mar15

[David Jamieson]

If anything it will force the feds into taking some form of positive action to stem the increasing problem that exists at the border or the US and Mexico.

I do believe that was the whole point of passing such radical legislation as to... well, enforce laws that already exist.

But still, going after mexicans only is not the right solution.
Go after the people who employ them illegally. Problem solved in the short term if that route is taken.

any vehicle found with illegals in it should be confiscated and the owner fined severely.

any businesses with illegals working there will be shut down and fined to the extreme.

any people actively recruiting illegals to work in their businesses will face fines and legal consequences.

Do that and your problem will disappear inside of a year.
Mexicans will realize there are ZERO jobs for them to get and employers will realize what a detriment it is to hire an illegal.

unfortunately, the lobbyists and people with money that support the politicians are also hiring these illegals.

make em pay and the problem goes away. That is the american way.

[SanHeChuan]

If they execute it like they are suppose to, "pursuant to their duties" it’ll be fine, and also would not have that great of an impact. Since the only illegal’s being caught under this law would be ones breaking to law, suspected of breaking the law, or calling the police for help.

What people are afraid of and shouldn’t happen is police walking up to random people asking for identification. However If the police department finds some reason to start “creating” reasonable suspicion to say seize the property of Illegal immigrants to fund their departments before deporting then there will be a problem.

What will be interesting to see is how many cases of wrongful deportation or detention there will be. US citizens are not required to carry documents proving their citizenship.

[1bad65]

However If the police department finds some reason to start “creating” reasonable suspicion to say seize the property of Illegal immigrants to fund their departments before deporting then there will be a problem.

I've not heard of any siezure provisions in the bill.

[solo1]

If they execute it like they are suppose to, "pursuant to their duties" it’ll be fine, and also would not have that great of an impact. Since the only illegal’s being caught under this law would be ones breaking to law, suspected of breaking the law, or calling the police for help.

What people are afraid of and shouldn’t happen is police walking up to random people asking for identification. However If the police department finds some reason to start “creating” reasonable suspicion to say seize the property of Illegal immigrants to fund their departments before deporting then there will be a problem.

What will be interesting to see is how many cases of wrongful deportation or detention there will be. US citizens are not required to carry documents proving their citizenship.

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Unlike some I trust the police to do their jobs, they know when someone is up to no good, they know when someone is out of place. I understand the concern for questions like "where are your papers" but considering the assault on this country by illegals ( look no further then the riots and destruction in Az this week) I think we have been left with little choice. dont want trouble with the system? dont break the law.

[solo1]

I’m pleased with Arizona pulling the trigger. Folks are being kidnapped, killed, robbed by illegals and what’s Washington done? The southern border is at war with the Mexican military and the drug cartels. A couple of weeks a go a Mexican army helicopter flew over the border into Texan airspace and what was the Obama regimes response? Nothing, same as Bushes, nothing. I’m in Cincinnati and we have had more then our share of issues with illegals, murders, drunk driving, robbery, molestation, rape the list goes on and on. It has subsided with the economic malaise however, as they have self deported for lack of work. We have counties that now make it illegal to be hanging around Home Depot and Lowes scrounging for day labor.

1st, businesses that hire them need to be assaulted with prison time and fines that destroy them, make it so painful to hire an illegal they self deport. A local home builder and a meat processing plant were recently raided and massacred financially for doing it.
2nd, we need a work program, maintained and monitored by the STATES that lets them in to work, if it’s available and not needed by Americans. So our unemployment numbers have to be closer to 3-5% to make that even a consideration. They go to the back of the line; any criminal history denies them entry of any kind. Wait 3-5 years before being eligible to apply for conditional workers status, if they stay clean, pay the taxes, pay a substantial fine for breaking the law in the first place then they can apply for limited citizenship, no voting rights, no land ownership, any criminal activity, even misdemeanors, results in deportation, never to return, these would apply to those who entered illegally first and these are the same laws the Mexican have on the books.
3rd Repeal Birthright citizenship, sponsored by Rep. Nathan Deal (Ga) HR 1868 the Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1868/show

On a personal note, I have a Canadian wife (thank God) you cant imagine the cost and hassles one has to go through to get a foreign national legalized in this country, but its not supposed to be easy. I only see Latinos marching in the streets waving their home countries flags calling us Nazis cause we have restrictive immigration policies, I have yet to see throngs of Canadians doing the same.

[David Jamieson]

On a personal note, I have a Canadian wife (thank God) you cant imagine the cost and hassles one has to go through to get a foreign national legalized in this country, but its not supposed to be easy. I only see Latinos marching in the streets waving their home countries flags calling us Nazis cause we have restrictive immigration policies, I have yet to see throngs of Canadians doing the same.

good choice in the wife department! lol

the only thing that get canadians riled about americans is when the border lines to the shopping outlets are too long.

we enter legally for the most part and don't have the same social issues as Mexico whereby we have a huge drug/narco problem masses of illiterates and various other woes associated with your neighbours to the south.

i think the us and canada have a pretty good relationship in that respect overall.
namely we respect each others stuff and have a fairly decent society overall.

mexico? not so much.

[SanHeChuan]

Thank God someone finally took the lead in enforcing our immigration laws. Because of this law, Arizona residents will soon be much safer than they are now.

Source:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=146341

Both sides in Arizona's immigration debate use crime argument

That's no surprise to those who study immigration — both sides, whether for or against increased immigration, agree that immigrants tend to commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans.

[SnowDog]

Both sides in Arizona's immigration debate use crime argument

It's funny when I read this I started thinking, living in Colo and even the year or so I lived in New Mexico. Most of the Illegals I met (and worked with) were actually really nice hard working people, and all of the stupid gangbanger punks (or wantabees) who were constantly destroying property, stealing, mugging, etc... that I ran accross were all US born. Go Figure.

[1bad65]

Both sides in Arizona's immigration debate use crime argument

But if we got them out of our country, EVERY crime they commit wouldn't happen. One crime is too many.

Look, I'm not anti-immigration. Plenty of immigrants have came to this country, paid their taxes, and become productive citizens. I'm anti illegal immigration.

[SanHeChuan]

Arizona Ethnic Studies Classes Banned, Teachers With Accents Can No Longer Teach English

[Drake]

Arizona Ethnic Studies Classes Banned, Teachers With Accents Can No Longer Teach English

Actually... the phrase is ungrammatical, and the accents must be heavy. I don't like the room given for interpretation, but it makes sense at the core.

[1bad65]

Considering 'Ethnic Studies' is an area where known frauds like Ward Churchill are considered experts and are allowed to 'teach', I'm all for doing away with them.