Red Dawn

[ngokfei]

you got that right.

China needs us just as we are in order to buy all their stuff.

The movie remake doesn't work against Russia as they are now #3 with the US & China the big 1 &2

Hoep the put some MA in it.

[bawang]

they hired 30 koreans and hmong to play 10 thousand man army cuz no one will do it
lol

[David Jamieson]

Why would anyone invade the US?
It has very little to offer China.

Most countries have learned that occupying another country is costly, pointless and never lasts anyways.

Yeah. It's unfortunate that you and me and bawang there are puking up the tax dollars to pay our gov to send our guys into those crap holes so that everyone else can learn the lesson of how stupid it is to try an occupy a country without a game plan going in or a game plan on how to get out.

reckless idiots is the term I use to describe our governments on this matter.

If I have to listen to one more fool talk about iraq blowing up the wtc i'm going explode! lol

dang!

[doug maverick]

they hired 30 koreans and hmong to play 10 thousand man army cuz no one will do it
lol

yea thats a lie

[Lee Chiang Po]

Why would anyone invade the US?
It has very little to offer China.

Most countries have learned that occupying another country is costly, pointless and never lasts anyways.

Oh, I don't know about that. Mexico and Canada seem to like the US pretty much. They have been envading for years and years, and the living is free and good. Don't know why a hungry Chinaman wouldn't like it too.

[David Jamieson]

Oh, I don't know about that. Mexico and Canada seem to like the US pretty much. They have been envading for years and years, and the living is free and good. Don't know why a hungry Chinaman wouldn't like it too.

so you don't think there's a lot of americans in mexico and canada, living there?
think again.

there are literally 100s of thousands of US citizens who live and work here in Canada. and millions who come for a visit annually.

Mexicans? We got those too! In the thousands!

Personally I think it's because of our social services and medical aid which has been provided by the people of canada. we've been doing that for decades.

Go Canada!

[SPJ]

actually, many chinese and asia neighbors of china will love to see the movie.

august 1st or eight one was the day some of the nationalist troops with communist political leaders rose up and rebelled, since the news of removing communists from nationalists troops/army was coming. that was also the first split between cpc and kmt cooperation and the start of civil war in 1927 and continueig today.

taiwan is always busy in preparing for red dawn, spent unpropionate funds for defense since 1949.

Japan and south korea, vietnam--- all have dreams or planning for red dawn if not russian (since last hundred of years) then chinese invasion (since some thousand year ago).

being china's satelite countries or borderning countries has some blessing, too--

at the age of nuclear weapon, china started and had a successful nuclear program in the 1960s, prevented Taiwan's plan to return to the mainland

and also limited vietnam conflict

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in short a large scale conventional warfare is no longer likely among china, russia and us without nuclear exchange first

actually space war on killing the communication and spy satellites first

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so the movie or tale of paratroopers landing in a us town may not be likely

but it can be very much real in taiwan, south korea, japan, vietnam etc etc

so the movie will have huge audience in the countries mentioned above since they do not have nuclear program or A-bomb.

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[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUslg...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtoAvnoFtqM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNwWg...eature=related

battle at ku ning tou in 1949 that stemmed or stopped the red tide flowing toward taiwan.

[David Jamieson]

This one from...uh, the other angle..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGk2TojOd-4

[GeneChing]

Four Lions looked interesting but the reviews haven't been that good. Meanwhile, back to RD.

Detroit-filmed 'Red Dawn' remake prompts Chinese outcry, delayed due to MGM bankruptcy
Published: Monday, November 15, 2010, 11:54 AM Updated: Monday, November 15, 2010, 12:23 PM
Jonathan Oosting |
Don't expect to see the Detroit-filmed "Red Dawn" remake on the big screen anytime soon.

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer filed for bankruptcy earlier this month, confirming reports the struggling company will be unable to release the film in the near future despite an original release date of Nov. 24.

While that may be a disappointment for Metro Detroiters hoping to spot local locations, it should come as good news to some in China who fear the film could spur anti-Chinese sentiment.

The remake largely follows the Soviet-invasion plot of the original 1984 film starring Patrick Swayze and Charlie Sheen, except this time around the main characters are fighting off the Chinese (and apparently rocking out to Toby Keith).

Beijing's largest newspaper, the state-run Global Times, in June ran two editorials on the film, suggesting "U.S. reshoots Cold War movie to demonize China" and "American movie plants hostile seeds against China."

While conspiracy theorists have suggested the U.S. government attempted to block the "Red Dawn" in the face of Chinese pressure, former Mount Clemens resident George Joseph, who runs the unofficial Red Dawn 2010 website, tells the Daily Tribune he thinks that idea is laughable.

"The delay is very much a result of the MGM bankruptcy," he told the newspaper. "They are holding back other films too. It looks like once this deal and bankruptcy finalize they will look for a partner to distribute the films they have had on hold, including Red Dawn."

"Red Dawn" started filming in Metro Detroit in August of last year, with crews shooting scenes in Mount Clemens, Royal Oak, Harper Woods and downtown Detroit. As the Guardian put in a potentially-offensive description, Detroit's "emptying streets and many abandoned factories were seen as the perfect real-life backdrop for the city's war scenes."

[GeneChing]

...but it's in the can so the premiere is imminent.

New Cast Photo & Release Info for RED DAWN Starring Chris Hemsworth & Jeffrey Dean Morgan
By Pietro Filipponi
Published: January 3, 2011 - 9:40pm

The upcoming war film directed by Dan Bradley is based on the 1984 film of the same name, which starred Patrick Swayze as the leader of the "Wolverines."


The storyline is simple: A group of teenagers look to save their town from an invasion of foreign soldiers by taking refuge in the woods and going on the offensive. Actors Chris Hemsworth and Josh Peck will portray the brothers Jed and Matt Eckert, roles originally played by Patrick Swayze and Charlie Sheen. Unlike the 1984 film which pitted the teens against the Russians, the new band of "Wolverines" (the nickname the group calls themselves) will face of against Chinese invaders.

In June 2010, the theatrical release of the film was delayed due to MGM’s financial difficulties. The delay was worsened by growing controversy in China after excerpts of the script were leaked, and caused the film to draw sharp criticism from one of the leading Chinese state-run newspapers; which ran headlines such as "U.S. reshoots Cold War movie to demonize China" and "American movie plants hostile seeds against China". Problems aside, thought, it appears audiences are now closer to seeing Red Dawn in theaters than planned. Once their current Chapter 11 restructuring is complete, MGM will set it's sights on the remake. The film is one of three already completed projects that will be released in 2011.

Featured in the picture above is the core Red Dawn cast, including Chris Hemsworth, Josh Hutcherson, Adrianne Palicki, Isabel Lucas, Edwin Hodge and Alyssa Diaz.

[GeneChing]

Reel China: Hollywood tries to stay on China's good side
Without Beijing even uttering a critical word, MGM is changing the villains in its 'Red Dawn' remake from Chinese to North Korean. It's all about maintaining access to the Asian superpower's lucrative box office.
"Red Dawn"
By Ben Fritz and John Horn, Los Angeles Times
March 16, 2011

China has become such an important market for U.S. entertainment companies that one studio has taken the extraordinary step of digitally altering a film to excise bad guys from the Communist nation lest the leadership in Beijing be offended.

When MGM decided a few years ago to remake "Red Dawn," a 1984 Cold War drama about a bunch of American farm kids repelling a Soviet invasion, the studio needed new villains, since the U.S.S.R. had collapsed in 1991. The producers substituted Chinese aggressors for the Soviets and filmed the movie in Michigan in 2009.

But potential distributors are nervous about becoming associated with the finished film, concerned that doing so would harm their ability to do business with the rising Asian superpower, one of the fastest-growing and potentially most lucrative markets for American movies, not to mention other U.S. products.

As a result, the filmmakers now are digitally erasing Chinese flags and military symbols from "Red Dawn," substituting dialogue and altering the film to depict much of the invading force as being from North Korea, an isolated country where American media companies have no dollars at stake.

The changes illustrate just how much sway China's government has in the global entertainment industry, even without uttering a word of official protest. Although it's unclear if anyone in China has seen "Red Dawn," a leaked version of the script last year resulted in critical editorials in the Global Times, a communist party-controlled paper.

That followed postings of pictures on China's popular Web portals Sina and Tiexue in late 2009 of the "Red Dawn" set showing actors posing as Chinese troops and mock propaganda posters of the U.S. Capitol building smashed by a hammer. The posts received tens of the thousands of views. "When does it come out?" read one Chinese comment. "There is no hope for theatrical screening [censorship], wait for pirated version."

An MGM spokesman said that no one at the studio has had discussions with Chinese government officials about "Red Dawn."

Hollywood has learned the hard way that besmirching China's image on-screen can have long-running implications for the many arms of a modern media conglomerate. In the late 1990s, Walt Disney Studios, Sony Pictures and MGM all faced a temporary halt in their business dealings in the country after releasing the movies "Kundun," "Seven Years in Tibet" and "Red Corner," respectively, which were critical of the communist government.

Today, China is far more important to the Hollywood studios, despite the government's policy of allowing only about 20 non-Chinese films into theaters each year. In 2010, China was the fifth-biggest box office market outside of the United States, with $1.5 billion in revenue.

A number of Hollywood studios are deepening their business ties to the world's most populous nation. Disney is building a theme park outside Shanghai, Sony Pictures co-produced the recent "Karate Kid" remake with the government-affiliated China Film Group, and News Corp.'s Fox International Productions recently made the Chinese-language hit "Hot Summer Days" there. Even independent studios like Lionsgate and Summit Entertainment will release their films "Killers" and "Red" in China in coming months.

Dan Mintz, whose DMG Entertainment is a leading producer and distributor of movies in China, said the "Red Dawn" story dramatizes how Western companies can fundamentally misunderstand how the nation works. If the picture had gone out without redacting the Chinese invaders, he said, "there would have been a real backlash. It's like being invited to a dinner party and insulting the host all night long. There's no way to look good.... The film itself was not a smart move."

Mintz, who met with the producers of "Red Dawn" to offer some suggestions on how they could proceed, said that doing business in China requires a partnership approach. "The more you reach out, the better your relationships will be," Mintz said. "This is bigger than a single film."

The "Red Dawn" remake follows several teenagers in Spokane, Wash., who fight invading Chinese forces allied with Russia in the near future (in the original film, the Soviets partnered with Cubans). The roughly $60-million production stars Chris Hemsworth, who will become much better known to moviegoers this May when he plays the title role in the superhero event picture "Thor."

MGM had been set to release "Red Dawn" in November, but the debt-laden studio filed for bankruptcy the month before and emerged under new leadership at the end of the year. New chief executives Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum are seeking to sell both "Red Dawn" and the horror film "The Cabin in the Woods," the last two pictures produced under a previous regime, as they try to reshape the 87-year-old company.

China will be an important market for the studio as it goes ahead with plans to produce two movies based on "The Hobbit" and James Bond sequels. The last Bond movie, 2008's "Quantum of Solace," grossed $21 million in China.

In the last few weeks, MGM has begun showing "Red Dawn" to potential buyers at other studios. Several people who have seen the movie but requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record said they couldn't risk distributing it given the potential blowback in China.

The feedback led to MGM's decision to make the highly unusual changes. Although it's common to reshape movies in the editing room, there's no known precedent for changing the nationality of an entire group of characters.

People close to the picture said the changes will cost less than $1 million and involve changing an opening sequence summarizing the story's fictional backdrop, re-editing two scenes and using digital technology to transform many Chinese symbols to Korean. It's impossible to eliminate all references to China, the people said, though the changes will give North Korea a much larger role in the coalition that invades the U.S.

"We were initially very reluctant to make any changes," said Tripp Vinson, one of the movie's producers. "But after careful consideration we constructed a way to make a scarier, smarter and more dangerous 'Red Dawn' that we believe improves the movie."

Representatives for director Dan Bradley did not respond to requests for comment.

If MGM is unable to find a distributor for the movie, it could end up going direct-to-DVD or could even be shelved, never to be seen by the public.

"Red Dawn" is not the only piece of entertainment to swap out Chinese villains for North Koreans recently. The video game "Homefront," which was released this week and features a script by John Milius, writer of the original "Red Dawn," was also originally intended to feature a Chinese invasion. For business reasons, publisher THQ changed the occupying forces to North Korea.

A representative for MGM said it's hopeful the unusual changes will have a simple result: turning "Red Dawn" from a complete write-off into a movie that can find an audience and make money.

"MGM has been working with the film 'Red Dawn's' director and producers to make the most commercially viable version of the film for audiences worldwide," said Mike Vollman, executive vice president of worldwide marketing. "We want to ensure the most people possible are able to experience it."

Does this mean the villains will be doing taekwondo instead of wushu? awwwww.

[ngokfei]

ah - no matter what they do the public and china will always know that it is about China.

Common now North Korea - ridiculous

Its become so obvious lately how the USA should really be written "U$A"

But thats okay, I'd say in less then 50 years China will be the #1 power in the world when it comes to $$ and acquisition of natural resources. (you don't see China getting involved in the middle east.


ah politics at the best.

Can bet that the original film will leak out YEAH!!

enough of my rant - back to KF.

thnaks gene

[Zenshiite]

Isn't that new video game Homefront about North Korea invading and occupying the US? Talk about improbable and jumping the shark...

[CLFNole]

Yeah but it is okay for every new kung fu pic to have the evil westerner that is a bad guy and fights and losses to the hero. They always make westerners look stupid and take shots at us but they can't be a bad guy in one of our movies. I mean common on it is a movie have some thicker skin from god sake.