When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
Context and intent are the defining factors.
You brought it up to highlight his "otherness" to imply that he is not American enough and therefore in your eyes less than. It was Xenophobic. It is the same “exclusive” line of thought to point out the differences in people that fuels racism.
Obama wasn’t born in Kenya. Obama didn't grow up in Kenya. He is of Kenyan ancestry. I don’t know your ancestry but a good bet is part German. Should we refer to you as “the German” in every post?
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What 1badabinlauden said is absolutely right.
Why do you liberals constantly harp on race? Please tell me why, I've been wondering this for 20 years now.
It has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with the Constitution and the rule of law. If the guys own wife can't be proud enough of this great country to refer to it as his home country, how the hell does that make me a racist by pointing that out?
If my wife starts calling Germany my home country, feel free to refer to me as "the German".
I have ancestry outside of this country. Yet I proudly refer to myself as an American, and I refer to America as my home country.
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
Because people like you keep pointing it out.
Oh so you’re a Birther now? Your first and second sentence have nothing to do with each other, where does it say in the constitution that you are not allowed to refer to your ancestry? You didn't just point it out, you twisted her words to turn his ancestry as a black man from Africa into a negative attribute, even pointing to "possible" ignorance on his part because of his heritage.
You are misrepresenting the quote to push your agenda.
She doesn't say that Kenya is his home country; she said the people of Africa were excited to see someone of African ancestry rise to such lofty heights. Why would the people of Africa be excited to see an American? They wouldn't "American" is not a part of their identity, that's why she didn't mention it within the context of her conversation."What it reminded me of was our trip to Africa, two years ago, and the level of excitement that we felt in that country – the hope that people saw just in the sheer presence of somebody like Barack Obama – a Kenyan, a black man, a man of great statesmanship who they believe could change the fate of the world."
-M. Obama
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No, I said Kenya which is a country. You then brought up race. Yet again.
So the question remains...
There you go again...
Good thing you're here to twist my posts around.
Now you're changing her words around! LMFAO!
So, if someone says something that doesn't fit what you wish they said, you just add or subtract words, right?
"When we took our trip to Africa, and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test." -Michelle Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo2Xr...eature=related
So, she did say Kenya is his home country. I can see you have problems with written English, what with you not seeing words that are there and you seeing words that aren't there as well. But are you also having problems now with spoken English?
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
So... You don't think Xenophobia is tantamount to racism.
OrAn unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.
Seems pretty similar to me.Hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Ok so you found a quote where she did "misspeak"."When we took our trip to Africa, and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test." -Michelle Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo2Xr...eature=related
He must "REALLY" be the Kenyan Manchurian candidate.
All your Xenophobic hate is now justified.
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I'm not going to get into this with you. You have repeatedly brought up race, while I brought up the Constitution.
Put it this way: If what I posted about him being from Kenya is racist, then I'm as much a racist as the Founding Fathers. They made the rule, after all.
So, she misspoke? Did she tell you that? Do you have her on record stating that? Or are you just making things up, again.
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
I'm really sick of this crap that if you criticize Obama, you're a racist.
I've criticized on this board people like Chris Dodd, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy, Mary Landrieu, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Ward Churchill among others. Yet when I add Obama to the list, now I'm suddenly a racist.
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams
To me 1bad65's behavior seems fairly transparent. President Obama won the election fairly, by a large margin. So, he and his ilk must paint President Obama as "other"...as something foreign and illegitimate.
In a nutshell, he's a sore loser. What they couldn't win at the ballot box, they'll try to destroy by smears and innuendo. It's tribalism at its "finest".
1bad65, you make me laugh. Dare I say it? You seem to be suffering from ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome).
"I didn't vote for him but he's my president, and I hope he does a good job." - John Wayne
Clearly you want President Obama to fail, or else you wouldn't bring up every little thing you can to try and discredit him and his Administration. You seems to be actively hoping for failure.
Perhaps you can take a lesson from The Duke.
1bad65, you make me laugh. Dare I say it? You seem to be suffering from ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome).
"I didn't vote for him but he's my president, and I hope he does a good job." - John Wayne
Clearly you want President Obama to fail, or else you wouldn't bring up every little thing you can to try and discredit him and his Administration. You seems to be actively hoping for failure.
Perhaps you can take a lesson from The Duke.
Obama has ties to that country since his father's family is from there! Kenyans know that and Obama, as an Americas, is acknowledged as being born is USA.
Just as an American (obviosuly recent) of Serb origin will consider Serbia his home as opposed to Croatia or Bulgaria.
I am sure you realize Americans of different backgrounds express solidarity in many ways in the reverence of where their parents were born. If you are a recent immigrant, it is different from one who came to USA at the turn of the century (e,g 19th century) who are further removed from their roots than the former!
Not at all. I am very much against his policies though.
Anytime the President, the Congress, or the Supreme Court signs/interprets laws, I'm interested and like to discuss history and politics. I just so happen to disagree with most of his views, the guys is a socialist after all. Keep in mind his approval rating is below 50% now too. So it appears a majority of Americans are not too pleased with this guy. I'm just more vocal about it.
And those of us who voted for Bush in 2000 had to listen for 4 years about how he stole the election. So please, take the sore loser crap somewhere else. I've never said the guy didn't win, I just pointed out his wife said his home country was Kenya.
When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams