Obama the biggest recipient of BP oil cash

[Reality_Check]

He is pro-abortion.
He has ran up record national debt.
His healthcare plan is way too socialist leaning for me.
He is against the War on Terror.
He is not supporting Israel as I feel the US should be.
He lied about not letting lobbyists into his Administration.
He wants to "spread the weath around".
He (and Congress) are printing way too much money right now, ie inflation.
He signed into law tougher EPA MPG standards on cars while he himself drove a HEMI-powered vehicle that did not meet the requirements he demanded of others.
He refuses to cut taxes when that is exactly what the economy needs right now.
He is following the failed policies of FDR.
He was for the bailouts of GM and Chrysler.
He took over a controlling share of GM.
He wasted billions of tax dollars on a stimulus plan that actually drove up unemployment.

David has addressed these, I'd just like to highlight a couple.

Inflation was 2.3% in March, i.e. low.

Regarding taxes:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950

Amid complaints about high taxes and calls for a smaller government, Americans paid their lowest level of taxes last year since Harry Truman's presidency, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data found....

...Federal, state and local taxes — including income, property, sales and other taxes — consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950, the Bureau of Economic Analysis reports. That rate is far below the historic average of 12% for the last half-century. The overall tax burden hit bottom in December at 8.8.% of income before rising slightly in the first three months of 2010.

[1bad65]

Obama's Birth certificate

That is not a birth certificate.

This guy does a good job of explaining the difference in that document and an actual birth certificate: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes...rth.cnn?hpt=C2

Not allowing a U.S Citizen by birth hold the office of president like the founders did is not the same as disparaging the man because of his ancestry like you did.

I've not desparaged anyone's ancestry. You just keep saying I have.

I didn't alter your posts.

I never said you did. I said you are saying I said things that I did not post/type/etc.

So, you think calling him a Kenyan is an insult. Since he is ONLY Kenyan through heritage by way of his father, you are indeed insulting the man’s ancestry.

Again, I did not say that.

I said it was a "dig". Can you read that? Do I need to type it out 100 times for you?

I also posted the context in which I used that term as a "dig".

[1bad65]

Please explain to me how President Obama is against the war on terror. Really.

He set up a pull out date. That gave our enemies fuel for their fire. You don't tell your enemies when you will quit.

"American commanders, worried about increased violence in the wake of Iraq's inconclusive elections, are now reconsidering the pace of a major troop pullout this summer, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

The withdrawal of the first major wave of troops is expected to be delayed by about a month, the officials said. Waiting much longer could endanger President Barack Obama's goal of reducing the force level from 92,000 to 50,000 troops by Aug. 31."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100511/...oop_withdrawal

[Drake]

He set up a pull out date. That gave our enemies fuel for their fire. You don't tell your enemies when you will quit.

"American commanders, worried about increased violence in the wake of Iraq's inconclusive elections, are now reconsidering the pace of a major troop pullout this summer, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

The withdrawal of the first major wave of troops is expected to be delayed by about a month, the officials said. Waiting much longer could endanger President Barack Obama's goal of reducing the force level from 92,000 to 50,000 troops by Aug. 31."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100511/...oop_withdrawal

That has been discussed long before he was elected. Iraq is doing nothing to help GWOT, because before we went in AQI didn't even exist.

[1bad65]

anyway, no, your answers are lame, unclear, vague and not good enough to have you regarded as anything more than a mudslinger and a divisionary goon from the right wing. lol

Then dealing with you is a waste of time.

For example, Obama set record deficits. It is what it is. Your response: "Not as much as his predecessor..." If you can't accept facts, I'm wasting my time.

I refuse to argue mathematics with someone who cannot accept 2+2=4, for example. You may hate Bush, hell he wasn't my favorite President. But the FACT is that the debt under Obama is higher than any other President in our history. Period.


And I'm not gonna touch your other 'arguments'. You asked what I had a problem with in his policies. I gave you answers. Now you say those answers are wrong. When you ask for opinions, you get opinions. And then you still say I really don't really have my own opinions, I just feel how Limbaugh/Bush/the GOP/etc tell me what I feel. You want to discuss things like an adult, fine. Respect me as an adult then. I've never once during our many discussions said to you 'Well, you don't really believe this. You just are a mouthpiece for Obama and Pelosi'. I respect you as an adult with ideas, morals, stances, etc. I only ask you do the same of me.

[Drake]

I'm at a point where I'm only reading like every other sentence of this thread...if even that.

[1bad65]

That has been discussed long before he was elected. Iraq is doing nothing to help GWOT, because before we went in AQI didn't even exist.

Yes, I understand that is part of the debate. I just don't feel he is handling it right. He sends mixed signals. He has gave a pull-out date, and been (to be honest) kind of anti-Israel. This, imo, sends the wrong message to those out to harm us.

I was just asked what policies of his I had issues with, and that is one. Obviously you don't disagree with Obama on that issue, and I do. But I do thank you for at least accepting I feel that way instead of just saying I really can't form opinions on my own.

[1bad65]

Inflation was 2.3% in March, i.e. low.

Actually, inflation was UP 2% in March. You may want to check your sources on that.

Source:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100503...20100503125400

"Americans saw prices rise two percent in the year to March according to the Commerce Department's personal consumption expenditures index published on Monday.

The figure, which is closely watched by the Federal Reserve as a sign of broader inflation levels, is approaching the maximum the central bank normally considers sustainable."

Source:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

And here the Fed admits it will increase in 2011:

"Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia President Charles Plosser said prices may rise 2.5 percent in 2011, a rate well above central bankers’ preferred range, and cautioned against complacency on inflation.

“The economy may be at greater risk of inflation than the conventional wisdom indicates,” Plosser said in a speech yesterday in New York. “While inflation expectations appear to remain anchored, we should not become sanguine about our credibility. It can be easily lost.”

The bank president’s inflation forecast for 2011 exceeds central bank officials’ long-run preferred range of 1.7 percent to 2 percent, and contrasts with the concerns of some officials and economists that the economic slump may provoke a broad decline in prices."

Source:
http://preview.bloomberg.com/apps/ne...d=aKsf3mmmoaCg

[Drake]

Yes, I understand that is part of the debate. I just don't feel he is handling it right. He sends mixed signals. He has gave a pull-out date, and been (to be honest) kind of anti-Israel. This, imo, sends the wrong message to those out to harm us.

I was just asked what policies of his I had issues with, and that is one. Obviously you don't disagree with Obama on that issue, and I do. But I do thank you for at least accepting I feel that way instead of just saying I really can't form opinions on my own.

The problem is that Israel is making things worse. So is Hamas, so don't think I'm taking their side either. Point is, a lot of innocent people are dying, and both sides are engaged in acts of terrorism. Israel is turning into that little brother who keeps getting in trouble. Sure, he's family, but man I wish he'd stop screwing up. Again, the tension between the two countries has been intensifying before Pres Obama was elected. It wasn't always roses before, you know.

As for Iraq... we were basically told to leave by Iraq's government. Like it or not, we have to agree to that. To stay against their will would be wrong on numerous levels, and also an act of occupation and highly illegal. We can't stay there "until the job's done" because it isn't our decision. The decision belongs to the people of Iraq. Pres. Obama didn't set the date. Iraq did.

Besides, we need these resources in Afghanistan, which, despite being the origin of those who attacked us, has been virtually ignored.

I'm still waiting for our mission there. Been waiting since late 2001.

[1bad65]

I'm at a point where I'm only reading like every other sentence of this thread...if even that.

Well, if you only read the posts that were sourced, you would only be reading mine.

Of course you can just read San's posts and he will tell you what he thinks, and what I really think as well!

[1bad65]

As for Iraq... we were basically told to leave by Iraq's government. Like it or not, we have to agree to that.

Not to be a jerk, but did you read my link about the pullout?

From that link:

"In the meantime, the U.S. Embassy is looking for ways to push Iraqis to resolve the deadlock. Iraq's political leaders are only just now taking preliminary steps toward creating a new government, which has been stalled by ballot challenges and bickering over whether to disqualify winning candidates accused of having links to the outlawed Baathist Party."

If Iraq still hasn't created a new Government yet, how can their Government be telling us to leave?

[Drake]

Not to be a jerk, but did you read my link about the pullout?

From that link:

"In the meantime, the U.S. Embassy is looking for ways to push Iraqis to resolve the deadlock. Iraq's political leaders are only just now taking preliminary steps toward creating a new government, which has been stalled by ballot challenges and bickering over whether to disqualify winning candidates accused of having links to the outlawed Baathist Party."

If Iraq still hasn't created a new Government yet, how can their Government be telling us to leave?

Dude. They established a new government years ago. This is a deadlock over the recent election, not establishment of their government. WAAAAAY out of context.

I was in Iraq during their first election, FYI. FOUR YEARS AGO.

[1bad65]

Dude. They established a new government years ago. This is a deadlock over the recent election, not establishment of their government. WAAAAAY out of context.

I was in Iraq during their first election, FYI. FOUR YEARS AGO.

Ok, I understand. But honest, from what I gathered, the plan has always been for us to pull out when we felt the Iraqi Government could stand on its own. So we couldn't just set a date, as there are alot of facotrs/variables/etc. But Obama set a date, and when he set the date experts in this field had not said the Iraqi Government could stand on it's own yet. Is this correct?

[Drake]

Ok, I understand. But honest, from what I gathered, the plan has always been for us to pull out when we felt the Iraqi Government could stand on its own. So we couldn't just set a date, as there are alot of facotrs/variables/etc. But Obama set a date, and when he set the date experts in this field had not said the Iraqi Government could stand on it's own yet. Is this correct?

Actually, Iraq set the date. It's not our country. We leave when they tell us to.

[Drake]

Also, we cannot sustain two theaters of operation. We were at the breaking point anyway, with so many deployments, all of our top commanders were warning the POTUS that we could not continue operations the way we were doing them. It simply wasn't logistically possible. We were losing very experienced and talented people because they were sick of being deployed every other year, essentially ruining their chance at having any sort of family.