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    Could and Should the Mook Jong be Updated?

    In WC the things that the Mj provides are certainly important. In the absence of a training partners, it might be a good option.

    Although, I think that random MJ-like training apparatus can be rigged up that have a more realistic feel. For example my buddy padded a 4x4 post and lashed a dowel rod to it with some extra airline tubing from an aquarium. I liked the springiness of the arm when practicing various WC movements like tan, gum, and jut. The length of the arm allowed us to practice head movement. Maybe MJ might be dated, but the general idea of a big wooden thing to practice your WC on isn't completely ridiculous.

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    I've used the spring loaded arms and the ridgid ones and what I have found is that the ridgid arms "force" you to move and angle and use footwork more then the spring ones.
    Since the springs have give, we end up moving the arm into position instead of moving ourselves.
    I think that a ridgid spring mounted head would be cool or a hard "anatomically correct" body would be better.
    I am not a fan of putting it on wheels/casters, but I do like it when it "moves" with my strikes and it should be well weighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    I've used the spring loaded arms and the ridgid ones and what I have found is that the ridgid arms "force" you to move and angle and use footwork more then the spring ones.
    Since the springs have give, we end up moving the arm into position instead of moving ourselves.
    I think that a ridgid spring mounted head would be cool or a hard "anatomically correct" body would be better.
    I am not a fan of putting it on wheels/casters, but I do like it when it "moves" with my strikes and it should be well weighted.
    Agreed.. But an "anatomically correct body" isn't what the jong was going for, it's creating specific angles and zones to move through, around...
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    Quote Originally Posted by YungChun View Post
    Agreed.. But an "anatomically correct body" isn't what the jong was going for, it's creating specific angles and zones to move through, around...
    The more it resembles the body, the more those zones will be "correct" and "direct".
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    The more it resembles the body, the more those zones will be "correct" and "direct".
    Disagree.. Because the dummy is presenting all zones at once...because it's static. A human body cannot offer all zones wrt bridges at once in a static manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YungChun View Post
    Disagree.. Because the dummy is presenting all zones at once...because it's static. A human body cannot offer all zones wrt bridges at once in a static manner.
    Which is exactly one of the various reasons why it doesn't translate to combat against another human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YungChun View Post
    Disagree.. Because the dummy is presenting all zones at once...because it's static. A human body cannot offer all zones wrt bridges at once in a static manner.
    I disagree with your disagreement.
    LOL !
    In terms of visual cues and angle understanding, the closer something appears to what you will face in reality, the better.
    Its sort of like fighter pilot simulations and such, teach the mind to see a certain way and it works that way.
    The dummy is NOT a fighting tool because it does not fight, if it is a target tool, then it must show the right targets, if it is a tool for developing angles and zones for striking in certain ways, then it must show those angles and zones in the closest possible way.
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