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    Arizona threatens to cut power in L.A.

    This one is a gem! You gotta love it when liberals open their mouths before thinking. Note to LA; when you are dependent on someone, don't **** them off.

    "A member of Arizona's top government utilities agency threw down the gauntlet in a letter to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, threatening to cut off the city's power supply as retribution for the city's boycott of Arizona.

    If Los Angeles wants to boycott Arizona, it had better get used to reading by candlelight.

    That's the message from a member of Arizona's top government utilities agency, who threw down the gauntlet Tuesday in a letter to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa by threatening to cut off the city's power supply as retribution.

    Gary Pierce, a commissioner on the Arizona Corporation Commission, wrote the letter in response to the Los Angeles City Council's decision last week to boycott the Grand Canyon State -- in protest of its immigration law -- by suspending official travel there and ending future contracts with state businesses.

    Noting that a quarter of Los Angeles' electricity comes from Arizona power plants, Pierce threatened to pull the plug if the City Council does not reconsider. He also ridiculed Villaraigosa for saying that the point of the boycott was to "send a message" by severing the "resources and ties" they share.

    "I received your message; please receive mine. As a statewide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona's electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the 'resources and ties' we share with the city of Los Angeles," Pierce wrote.

    "If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation."

    Appearing to tap into local frustration in Arizona over the raft of boycotts and threatened boycotts from cities across the country, including Los Angeles, Pierce warned that Arizona companies are willing and ready to fight boycott with boycott.

    "I am confident that Arizona's utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands," Pierce wrote. "If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona's economy."

    Arizona has some serious leverage over Los Angeles, as well as the rest of California. The state and city get electricity from a nuclear power plant outside Phoenix, as well as from coal-fired power plants in northern Arizona and two giant hydroelectric power generators along the Colorado River.

    Despite that, the Los Angeles City Council voted overwhelmingly last week to ban future business with Arizona -- a decision that could cost Arizona millions of dollars in lost contracts.

    Los Angeles officials were furious with the Arizona immigration law passed last month and joined local officials in cities across the country in pushing boycotts to register their dismay. Critics say the law will lead to racial profiling and civil rights abuses.

    Arizona officials have defended the law, saying the state needed to take its illegal immigration problem into its own hands.

    The law requires local law enforcement to try to verify the immigration status of anyone they have contact with whom they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. It empowers them to turn over verified illegal immigrants to federal custody. The legislation explicitly prohibits screening people based solely on race or national origin."

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    That is stupid. Beyond stupid.

    That will never happen, regardless of what you might think. Really... this isn't even feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    That is stupid. Beyond stupid.

    That will never happen, regardless of what you might think. Really... this isn't even feasible.
    Actually, it is feasible.

    Arizona sells them power, and if LA truly wants to 'sever all ties' with Arizona, Arizona can decline to sell them power. It's simply the idiots in LA getting exactly what they themselves asked for. Poetic justice.
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    And again, for those too stupid to comprehend it: I have no problem with legal immigration, I have a problem with illegal immigration.
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    well did arizona think about how much they make off selling that to LA? they stand not to only lose from the boycot millions, but also from not selling LA power. throw up some more wind turbines cali.
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    is it impossible for LA to work around that? can they buy power from elsewhere, or re distribute their own in a different manner?

    anyone think arizona is bluffing?
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    "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." - Anatole France

    Is this the kind of legal immigration we're talking about here?
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    Alternately, if there weren't so many Americans willing to hire people who are here illegally, then there simply wouldn't be many illegal people here.

    It is the corruption of capitalism that is the cause of the problem and the root of it.

    Go after those people who employ these people and furthermore likely abuse them as well.

    no job availability = no flood of immigrants looking for illegal work. It is illegal work. NO person anywhere is illegal.

    you cannot be illegal by virtue of being a human walking the face of the earth looking to eat and survive like anyone else.

    It really is that simple.

    Screw the fascists and make the required changes to the law that will keep the American people from using illegal hiring practices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." - Anatole France

    Is this the kind of legal immigration we're talking about here?
    Do what?!?!
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Alternately, if there weren't so many Americans willing to hire people who are here illegally, then there simply wouldn't be many illegal people here.

    It is the corruption of capitalism that is the cause of the problem and the root of it.

    Go after those people who employ these people and furthermore likely abuse them as well.

    no job availability = no flood of immigrants looking for illegal work. It is illegal work. NO person anywhere is illegal.

    you cannot be illegal by virtue of being a human walking the face of the earth looking to eat and survive like anyone else.

    It really is that simple.

    Screw the fascists and make the required changes to the law that will keep the American people from using illegal hiring practices.
    The Arizona law does punish those who hire illegals. Perhaps you are another one who is criticizing the law without reading it. You know, people like Obama, Holder, and Neopoloitano.

    And you are slamming capitalism again, I see. Did you ever stop to think that the illegals are coming here to work in jobs created by capitalism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    The Arizona law does punish those who hire illegals. Perhaps you are another one who is criticizing the law without reading it. You know, people like Obama, Holder, and Neopoloitano.

    And you are slamming capitalism again, I see. Did you ever stop to think that the illegals are coming here to work in jobs created by capitalism?
    did you read the law? because the emphasis is on hostility towards illegal immigrants and not on those people who hire them in order to avoid paying actual decent wages and to avoid benefit plans, taxation programs etc.

    you tell me where the emphasis is on hiring practices. And when the INS goes into a place, do they arrest the owner who willfully and of his or her own free accord undertook to hire them or do they merely chase down the people who were hired?

    Give your head a shake, you make less and less sense every day with your diatribes and nonsense statements not to mention your ugly hypocrisy and your selfish point of view.

    You really are not a good person at all in my view. I'm glad I don't know you because you are not someone I would call friend.
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    Once again you are adding words to my posts.

    I never used the word "emphasis". I said the law punishes employers who hire illegals, and it does.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    You really are not a good person at all in my view. I'm glad I don't know you because you are not someone I would call friend.
    Yeah, I must be a real radical and an ogre. People like me who think that they should actually get to keep the money they EARN are horrible people. Of course those who live off of others are just wonderful people.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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