Democrat James Carville tells it like it is

[1bad65]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO1lO1CVkTE

You gotta love it when the shoe is on the other foot!

[MasterKiller]

In the end, it comes down to an honest and fundamental disagreement about the proper role of government. We oppose the national Democrats’ view that says the way to strengthen our country is to increase dependence on government. We believe the way to strengthen our country is to restrain spending in Washington and empower individuals and small businesses to grow our economy and create jobs.--Bobby Jindal

and then....

“We have been frustrated with the disjointed effort to date that has too often meant too little, too late to stop the oil from hitting our coast,” Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said during a Monday news conference at Port Fourchon with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.

“BP is the responsible party, but we need the federal government to make sure they are held accountable and that they are indeed responsible. Our way of life depends on it,” Jindal said.

[David Jamieson]

a) politicians are fork tongued no matter their party, no matter their stripe

b) the ones that matter are the ones who hold power, everyone else is a bleating shlub.

[SanHeChuan]

1Bad what do you think Obama should be doing specifically?

[1bad65]

and then....

Jindal is upset because he wanted to build some barrier sandbars to stop, or slow, the oil getting to his state. The Federal Government told him he could not do that.

If States had the rights the Founders intended, La would be alot better off as Jindal had a plan while the Federal Government did not. And not only did they not have a plan, they told the guy with a plan he was forbidden to execute his plan.

Governor Jindal is not speaking with a forked tongue. The Federal Government **** sure should be held responsible for them telling La that La could not try and fix the mess themselves.

[1bad65]

1Bad what do you think Obama should be doing specifically?

Nothing.

See, I'm consistent. I think Bush owed the Katrina victims nothing. It's not the Federal Government's responsibility, it's the States. My point was that when Katrina hit, the press and the Democrats said it was all Bush's fault and he was skewered for not doing enough, not caring, being a racist, etc. But when disaster strikes the same area and a liberal Democrat is President the press is mum while he does NOTHING for the victims, and is instead golfing, playing basketball, attending fundraisers in California, etc.

Admit it, if Bush were President right now, he would be being burned in effigy. The press would never shut up about how his good ole oil buddies destroyed the Gulf Coast and all he did was shoot hoops and go to fundraisers while these poor victims suffered. But Obama gets a pass. Of course Obama also got alot of campaign cash from BP Oil....

[David Jamieson]

Nothing.

See, I'm consistent. I think Bush owed the Katrina victims nothing. It's not the Federal Government's responsibility, it's the States. My point was that when Katrina hit, the press and the Democrats said it was all Bush's fault and he was skewered for not doing enough, not caring, being a racist, etc. But when disaster strikes the same area and a liberal Democrat is President the press is mum while he does NOTHING for the victims, and is instead golfing, playing basketball, attending fundraisers in California, etc.

Admit it, if Bush were President right now, he would be being burned in effigy. The press would never shut up about how his good ole oil buddies destroyed the Gulf Coast and all he did was shoot hoops and go to fundraisers while these poor victims suffered. But Obama gets a pass. Of course Obama also got alot of campaign cash from BP Oil....

what victims so far?

Bush was lax in providing much needed aid to Louisiana and teh city of New Orleans was lax in providing ward 9 with a decent seawall.

did you know that up in canada a band called the tragically hip wrote a song called "new orleans is sinking" in the 80's.

Even then, everyone knew that the New orleans sea wall was a joke.

People do nothing but react, and THAT is the problem.

[SanHeChuan]

Admit it, if Bush were President right now, he would be being burned in effigy.

How many people have died?
How many people are homeless?
How many people need food and water?
Where is the looting?
Where is the lawless Chaos?

Other than geographical location, what do these two things really have in common?

Bush probably would be criticized more, and he might of been unfairly criticized during Katrina, but I doubt Bush would have been criticized as much for this disaster as he was for Katrina, because people are not dying.

[David Jamieson]

How many people have died?
How many people are homeless?
How many people need food and water?
Where is the looting?
Where is the lawless Chaos?

Other than geographical location, what do these two things really have in common?

Bush probably would be criticized more, and he might of been unfairly criticized during Katrina, but I doubt Bush would have been criticized as much or this disaster as he was for Katrina, because people are not dying.

You speak common sense. Don't expect it to be understood by the troll though. lol

"victims"

[1bad65]

You speak common sense. Don't expect it to be understood by the troll though. lol

"victims"

Dude, the Gulf Coast seafood industry is taking an enormous hit. I saw a guy who owns a boat in Florida who takes tourists and fishermen out into the Gulf saying his business is likely going to go under. Florida is spending over $25 million in advertising so they don't lose tourism money. And what about the taxpayers footing the bill now, aren't they victims? I notice that in the liberal's world, taxpayers can never be victims.

And I love how you liberals are now saying an oil spill that is now the biggest in US history has no victims. My, my, what hypocracy.

And Carville said "people are dyin". Sounds like he says there are victims.

[David Jamieson]

Dude, the Gulf Coast seafood industry is taking an enormous hit. I saw a guy who owns a boat in Florida who takes tourists and fishermen out into the Gulf saying his business is likely going to go under. Florida is spending over $25 million in advertising so they don't lose tourism money. And what about the taxpayers footing the bill now, aren't they victims? I notice that in the liberal's world, taxpayers can never be victims.

And I love how you liberals are now saying an oil spill that is now the biggest in US history has no victims. My, my, what hypocracy.

And Carville said "people are dyin". Sounds like he says there are victims.

uh, you live in the land of lawsuits and there is nothing stopping any shrimpers from suiing and winning against BP. Don't you think?

why are you against socialism, but then you support it when it's convenient to do so.

BP is 100% responsible for their mess. BP should 100% pay for it and Obama seems to be working towards changing the legislation that allows oil companies to duck out after paying 70 million.

nobody is dying. whether Carville says it or not.

BP is responsible for the mess and they will pay or pay back, one way or another.

also, where are you getting the information that the white house is stopping Louisiana from taking protective measures? Is that an EPA thing or a directive from the white house?

also, as you are a right winger, are you certain you are just making stuff up to fit your argument again? Because you do that a lot.

[SanHeChuan]

I love how conservatives equate or elevate people losing money above people losing their lives.

[1bad65]

why are you against socialism, but then you support it when it's convenient to do so.

Since you can't read and/or comprehend my posts, I'm forced once again to decipher written English for you.

Here is what I posted: "See, I'm consistent. I think Bush owed the Katrina victims nothing. It's not the Federal Government's responsibility, it's the States."

Do you understand it now?

nobody is dying. whether Carville says it or not.

Actually 11 people have died so far, and many people cleaning up the oil are reporting serious health problems.

also, where are you getting the information that the white house is stopping Louisiana from taking protective measures? Is that an EPA thing or a directive from the white house?

Again, you fail reading comprehension.

I used the words "Federal Government" not the words "White House". Please learn to read.

But here is a link. I'm sorry it's written in English, as you seem to have a hard time understanding it.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spil...ry?id=10731680

also, as you are a right winger, are you certain you are just making stuff up to fit your argument again? Because you do that a lot.

Show me where I've "made stuff up", and I'll leave here and never come back.

And keep in mind, if I've been mistaken and owned up to it, thats not "making stuff up".

Did I make up the Carville video?

[1bad65]

I love how conservatives equate or elevate people losing money above people losing their lives.

Did I say that, or are you once again making stuff up and saying you found it in my posts?

[David Jamieson]

really?

I highly doubt that you'll never come back here again.

I think your being here and spreading these neo-con bs lies and agitation is likely connected to some job you have, or you are suffering from chicken little syndrome and do this kind of thing in a lot of places as if you are doing a service to the community or something. lol

I still have yet to see you participate intelligently in a post about traditional chinese martial arts, kung fu, qi gong or any of the other subject matter that is the focus of this place.

so, i simply don't believe you when you say stupid things like that because you've been shown to be wrong before on many occasions and yet you are still here pushing a neo con information agenda and regurgitating rush limbaugh and fox news. lol

whatever dude. keep banging your drum I guess.