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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    never give up! the internet can't win by virtue of ubiquitous HILARITY
    Fixed that for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brothernumber9 View Post
    Though this post may be just another 1bad attack on Obama and anything not hard line repub, I think much of what he's stated in regard to the oil spill is fair, and arguably how much, if not most of the country, feels about it right now.
    I'm not alone, you are correct. Just today, Spike Lee and Dick Morris chimed in as well.

    Spike Lee article:
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/...ex.html?hpt=T2

    Dick Morris article: (link will only work if you replace the **** with the letters 'dick')
    http://thehill.com/opinion/columnist...nt-have-a-clue

    Morris had some real zingers:
    "And the truth begins to dawn on all of us: Obama has no more idea how to work his way out of the economic mess into which his policies have plunged us than he does about how to clean up the oil spill that is destroying our southern coastline."

    "America is getting the point that its president doesn’t have a clue."

    "Some presidents have failed because of their stubbornness (Johnson and Bush-43). Others because of their character flaws (Clinton and Nixon). Still others because of their insensitivity to domestic problems (Bush-41). But now we have a president who is failing because he is incompetent. It is Jimmy Carter all over again.

    Who would have thought that this president, so anxious to lead us and so focused on his specific agenda and ideas, would turn out not to know what he is doing?"
    Last edited by 1bad65; 06-02-2010 at 02:00 PM.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Anyone who characterizes Bush-41 as a failure due to "stubbornness" can be safely disregarded as a political hack.

    Bush-41 failed as a President because he led, cajoled, lied, and subborned his country into a pointless war.


    Remember 1Bad65.. Obama doesn't have to "succeed" to succeed. He just has to not mess up as badly as the poster-child for the Neo-Cons/GOP did (i.e. Bush-43).

    And on that count he's WAY WAY AHEAD of the curve.

    He will run in 2012, and be re-elected most likely. That's the reality. The American public repudiated the policies of the far Right in favor of someone who is a center-left politician.

    That's the reality. People crossed the "party lines" to vote for him because they hated what the GOP had done do our country, our soldiers, our economy, and our social contract.

    That's the reality. Stop whining and trying to drag down someone you disagree with just because you buy into the Rush/Beck/Hannity/Faux News talking points.

    Obama is MISTER PRESIDENT. That's how it is. That's the reality.

    You are basically whining that Obama wasn't wading in the oil from day one declaring victory. If he had you'd be whining he didn't achieve victory. If he basically came out and said "BP will be destroyed as a company for this" you'd rant about him being a socialist trying to destroy business.

    Absolutely NOTHING Obama does would satisfy you, short of him betraying the platform that DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED HIM.

    So basically either Obama is a hypocrite who does a 180 on everything and acts like the Republicans that the American people voted out..

    OR You are going to hate on him all day long for everything.

    The GOP lost. Obama won. That's the reality. Get some testicular fortitude and let the democratically elected WINNER of the election do his job. You will have your chance to vote for the party of corporate corruption in a few more years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Not to be a ****, but you must not be reading the news lately. Both CNN and FoxNews had it as headlines on their webpages last week.
    Then please post a link as I have been unable to find anything blaming the reports of illness on the oil. The chemicals being used to disperse the oil yes, but not the oil itself.
    1bad65, you make me laugh. Dare I say it? You seem to be suffering from ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome).

    "I didn't vote for him but he's my president, and I hope he does a good job." - John Wayne

    Clearly you want President Obama to fail, or else you wouldn't bring up every little thing you can to try and discredit him and his Administration. You seems to be actively hoping for failure.

    Perhaps you can take a lesson from The Duke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality_Check View Post
    Then please post a link as I have been unable to find anything blaming the reports of illness on the oil. The chemicals being used to disperse the oil yes, but not the oil itself.
    Here:
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/03...ex.html?hpt=C1

    And stop playing semantics. Whether its the oil or the clean up chemicals, the point is they are getting sick. I thought you liberals cared about people getting sick, not arguing semantics over how they got sick.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    Anyone who characterizes Bush-41 as a failure due to "stubbornness" can be safely disregarded as a political hack.

    Bush-41 failed as a President because he led, cajoled, lied, and subborned his country into a pointless war.
    Do what?!?! Are you saying Iraq didn't invade Kuwait? Because that's why Bush-41 said we fought the Iraq War, to get the Iraqis out of Kuwait.

    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    Remember 1Bad65.. Obama doesn't have to "succeed" to succeed.
    LMFAO at this!!!! Way to lower the bar. I guess GM, Chrysler, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, AIG, etc all 'succeeded' too.

    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    He just has to not mess up as badly as the poster-child for the Neo-Cons/GOP did (i.e. Bush-43).

    And on that count he's WAY WAY AHEAD of the curve.
    How so? He has added to the debt at a faster pace than any previous President. Unemployment is up over 35% since Bush left office. And now we find out his healthcare program is going to cost double what he said it would.

    You're really embarrassing yourself and showing what a partisan hack you are. I've openly said GW Bush was nowhere near perfect, but here you type 'he doesnt have to succeed to succeed' in relation to your guy. And you guys say I'm the one who is blindly devoted to one side of the political spectrum.

    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    He will run in 2012, and be re-elected most likely. That's the reality. The American public repudiated the policies of the far Right in favor of someone who is a center-left politician.
    You do realize he now has a ~42% approval rating, right? Sounds like a shoe-in to me.

    After November, you be sure and come on here and tell us how the American public repudiated the policies of the far right.

    And if you say Obama is a "center-left" politician, can you give us an example of who you say is a "far left" politician?

    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    That's the reality. People crossed the "party lines" to vote for him because they hated what the GOP had done do our country, our soldiers, our economy, and our social contract.
    You are right that independant voters voted for him in droves. But have you seen how those voters are now leaving him at a rapid pace?

    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    That's the reality. Stop whining and trying to drag down someone you disagree with just because you buy into the Rush/Beck/Hannity/Faux News talking points.
    But 'he doesn't have to succeed to succeed' is not a leftist talking point.

    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    You are basically whining that Obama wasn't wading in the oil from day one declaring victory. If he had you'd be whining he didn't achieve victory. If he basically came out and said "BP will be destroyed as a company for this" you'd rant about him being a socialist trying to destroy business.
    Can you F'N read???? I've actually said I'm pointing out hypocracy, and that honestly it's not the Federal Government's problem. Please, please, stop putting words in my mouth. You are either putting words in my mouth, or you are too ignorant to be able to read and comprehend my posts. Which is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    The GOP lost. Obama won. That's the reality. Get some testicular fortitude and let the democratically elected WINNER of the election do his job. You will have your chance to vote for the party of corporate corruption in a few more years.
    Again, proving you are a hack. If the GOP is the party of corporate corruption, please explain how BP Oil gave Obama more money than any other candidate...
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Why are we blaming Obama for something that, by federal law, is solely BP's responsibility?

    At any rate, word from my comrades is that they are on call right now.
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    And let's put this into the context of a previous oil spill under Fmr Pres HW Bush. Katrina wasn't the same thing, so the results were different.

    Washington (CNN) -- Nearly seven weeks into the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster, the Obama administration is facing increasing calls to take over the cleanup operation from beleaguered oil giant BP.

    While the government has the legal means of doing that, the consequences might ultimately hurt the government.

    On Tuesday, Attorney General Eric Holder announced the Justice Department has launched a criminal and civil investigation into devastating spill and BP's actions. He said the investigation, which began weeks ago, would be comprehensive and aggressive. He also said federal officials will prosecute anyone who broke the law.

    CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said an intervention into the cleanup would only hurt the government's litigation against BP.

    "Undoubtedly, one of the defenses of the BP people here, both the corporation and the individuals involved, is going to be, 'Hey, the federal government was involved with this every step of the way. You knew what we were doing. You approved it. You approved all our actions. How can you turn around and prosecute us?' "

    Toobin added that while BP's potential argument might be politically infuriating, it is actually a good legal argument in court, "which would make a case like this pretty difficult to prove."

    President George H.W. Bush, during the Exxon Valdez tanker spill off the coast of Alaska in 1989, turned down a request by Alaska's governor to declare the incident a major disaster. That declaration, under the Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, would commit federal resources and control over the cleanup efforts.

    According to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the rationale for the turndowns was that a declaration by Bush "would hinder the government's litigation against Exxon that promised substantial compensation for the incident."



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    I think many Americans thought alike when hearing Obama talk about bringing the troops home, getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, ending war, and focusing a little more on domestic issues, particularly the credit crisis at the time, that "yeah he's our guy". At least a little bit more popular than McCain.

    Within the first 3 months, Obama came out fairly strong, taking point and acting on some needed legislation, even if not entirely satisfactory, was at least taking progressive action in the public eye.
    Granted, I feel Obama stepped into the worst set of crisis possibly of all time, or at least since probably Kennedy, and seem to just continually compound, but his actions since the stimulus package have begun leaning toward failure. The bank bailouts, abuse of executive priveledges regarding military action, no clear exit strategy from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, ominous health care reform, and now the Oil spill in the gulf to which, even if he doesn't necessarily have any real power to act on it, didn't give any confidence to the public, particularly Louisiana and Florida, that everything possible was being done.

    I certainly don't envy his job and the tasks set out before him, but if he doesn't step up his game by the end of 2nd Qtr 2011, I don't believe he will win re-election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post

    You're really embarrassing yourself and showing what a partisan hack you are. I've openly said GW Bush was nowhere near perfect, but here you type 'he doesnt have to succeed to succeed' in relation to your guy. And you guys say I'm the one who is blindly devoted to one side of the political spectrum.

    You keep forgetting man.. it's not that Obama is great.. it's that the GOP lied and lead us into war and because of it I loathe them and all their works.

    I'd vote for a card-carrying member of the communist party with three wives and a criminal record for statutory rape and a history of addiction before I'd vote for a Republican.

    Bush-43 was *just that bad*. The GOP has earned the hate. They had their little warmonger party and now they gotta pay. Every election.. till I stop voting most likely.


    Obama ain't Bush-43. He hasn't STARTED any wars and he's trying to fix the mess left by the last guy. He's doing just fine.

    No starting of wars, guy works hard, trys to fix all the GOP's f*ckups... that's a success to me.

    See how low that bar is? All you gotta do is get elected, not start any d*mn wars, and be a hard worker and you are better than the Wolf Boy and Daddy Warbucks.

    Weird how Cheney hasn't been all over the news cycle since Deepwater exploded. Guess he might not want to answer questions about his multimillion dollar "goodbye present" from Halliburton eh?

    I'll be honest.. I can't wait for Bush to die (of natural causes). I need to **** on his grave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brothernumber9 View Post
    I certainly don't envy his job and the tasks set out before him, but if he doesn't step up his game by the end of 2nd Qtr 2011, I don't believe he will win re-election.
    No way. Remember, he doesn't have to succeed to succeed.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Dime, you really didn't address my post. You also didn't answer any of the questions I asked you. Please just answer this one:

    And if you say Obama is a "center-left" politician, can you give us an example of who you say is a "far left" politician?
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimethylsea View Post
    See how low that bar is? All you gotta do is get elected, not start any d*mn wars, and be a hard worker and you are better than the Wolf Boy and Daddy Warbucks.
    The bar may be low for this fool, but yet you still have to lower it for him to 'succeed'.

    So in your book the national debt doesn't matter? What about the corruption with the Sestak and Romanoff job offers if they dropped out of races against Obama's chosen candidates? What about unempolyment? What about Obama lying when he said he would close Gitmo? Do any of those issues matter to you?
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    lol at the wall of burning alligators!

    Almost the same size of disaster happened before in 1979.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I_oil_spill
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Dime, you really didn't address my post. You also didn't answer any of the questions I asked you. Please just answer this one:

    And if you say Obama is a "center-left" politician, can you give us an example of who you say is a "far left" politician?
    Bernie Sanders is far left. That's the first name that comes to mind.
    "The first stage is to get the Gang( hard, solid power). every movement should be done with full power and in hard way, also need to get the twisting and wrapping power, whole body's tendon and bones need to be stretched to get the Gang( hard) power. "
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