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Are you a Ron Paul supporter? He is for abolishing the Federal Reserve.
From what I have seen, Ron Paul makes a lot of sense. IMHO, the PRIVATELY owned Federal Reserve is a con-job on the American people. I would love to know the major shareholders of this organization are. I have heard that their names are not in the public domain. Do you know if this is true?



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No country is rich enough to support oversized governments. The USSR was the largest country in the history of the world, and the richest in natural resources. And look at what happened to them.
I know what you are getting at,but look how long they survived and one can only wonder if they would have survived a whole lot longer if they were not involved in that crazy arms race during the cold war, and had concentrated their efforts at exploiting their natural resources and developing their non-military industry.

On the other hand one can look at countries in Scandenavia where the system seems to be a pretty healthy marriage of socialism with capitalism.



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"Do you think if the "ruling elite" controlled the elections, that we would have Obama, Reid and Pelosi in charge? The "rich elite" got where they are by building businesses, creating things, investing in things--this administration is blatantly anti-business, anti-wealth. The only "elite" they don't want to destroy is the "hollywood elite!" Get out into the fresh air."
IMHO, the elite have been choosing almost every president for the last century and beyon, I don't think that they would suddenly say "hey, lets just let the people decide this time".

The elite that I talk about are not just rich businessmen. These people eat rich businessmen for lunch. I also believe that their real wealth (power and influence) is never revealed in the public domain, that is the "richest men in America", list, because if it was, then people would start asking questions.

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Another thing to consider is how the Obama regime bailed out GM, and it's effects. Obama fired the CEO they had pre-bailout and replaced him with a new CEO Obama chose. Obama also set the new CEOs pay, he did not get to enrich himself (or the Board of GM) with the bailout (ie the taxpayer's) money. The ones who got the money were not the rich guys, it was the union workers. Without the bailout, they would have lost everything, their jobs, their pensions, their healthcare, etc. So it was not taking from the taxpayers and giving the rich. It was taking from the taxpayers and giving it to union workers.
Very true, but again he is keeping a business enterprise alive. That enterprise is ultimately owned by the banks and not the US government, because the US government owes trillions of dollars to them.

This is a debt that cannot be paid, at least looking at it at the present. So, in effect the creditors, the BANKS, or more correctly, non-elected BANKERS, whoever, they may be, own the assets of the US government, so the more Obama takes over businesses in the name of "rescuing" them, the more collateral he provides for his creditors to lay claim to. To make matters worse, Obama is INCREASING the government debt by spending even more money that the government does not have.

This is a huge fraud and scam on the American people. It is basically a transfer of wealth to the banking elite, while the government plays the role of the dishonest middle man, lying through its teeth and using sugar coated slogans to carry out as much as this con-job as it can and as soon as it can, as probably it fears people awakening to the scam.


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And what Obama did with Chrysler is even worse. He took the stock from the investors (the rich) and GAVE it to the people of his choosing! Lawsuits were filed by those whose stocks were literally stolen from them, but Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who is assigned to emergency motions arising from the United States Appeals Court for the Second Circuit, in a one-sentence order, stayed the orders of the bankruptcy judge allowing the sale, pending further order by Justice Ginsburg or the Supreme Court.

Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/09/bu...sler.html?_r=1
The looting will continue until America turns into a two class level society. The elite on top and the working class on the bottom, living in a country whose national identity and true independence has been eroded for a long time, make it end up as just another state in a regional community of countries..
This is a real possibility.

Obama was brought in to do a job and follow an agenda which has been in existance for a long time and which through different governments has been brought to its fruition. The "War on Terrorism", "Global Warming" scam and others, are also playing their part in centralizing world power and turning once powerful countries into relatively insignificant members withing regional powers, that is the New World Order.

The European Community is one such example and element of what I am talking about. we are having a New World Order installed, but somehow, no one asked the people if they wanted to be controlled by a centralized world dictatorship, owned and ultimately controlled, lock, stock and barrel, by private banking interests (families that own them) and their politician yes- men.

1bad65, from reading your past posts, I have noticed that you are no lover of socialism nor communism, but this system has been in the works for the West for a long time, going back to at least the early 20th century..

A communist style systeme is one of the best ways to control the sheep, in a manner of speaking, and every authoritarian regime is looking for ways of controlling the masses as best as they can.

I hope that people snap out of this state of hypnotism that is stopping them from seeing where their being herded!