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    Hong Kong or Guangzhou Bak Mei In Tournament Fighting...

    Anyone know of any videos online anywhere of Guanghzhou or Hong Kong Bak Mei being used in tournaments? I heard schools in NYC had allowed their students to use it in tournament fighting competitions to great success. Just would like to see what that looked like.
    I was on the metro earlier, deep in meditation, when a ruffian came over and started causing trouble. He started pushing me with his bag, steadily increasing the force until it became very annoying. When I turned to him, before I could ask him to stop, he immediately started hurling abuse like a scoundrel. I performed a basic chin na - carotid artery strike combination and sent him to sleep. The rest of my journey was very peaceful, and passersby hailed me as a hero - Warrior Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faruq View Post
    Anyone know of any videos online anywhere of Guanghzhou or Hong Kong Bak Mei being used in tournaments? I heard schools in NYC had allowed their students to use it in tournament fighting competitions to great success. Just would like to see what that looked like.
    You would be hard pressed to 'see' 'it' 'used' in a tournament situation at all. 'It' looks like anything else in a tournament which has rules that all the competitors have to abide by. That's the point of tournament rules, a level playing field.

    I think you 'heard' incorrectly.

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    Thanks. I think I might've heard that some NYC Bak Mei students had won in tournaments or were tournament champions, but I guess that doesnt necessarily mean they used Bak Mei in the tournaments.

    But talking about tournament fighting, I found this at PakMei.net:

    "These sets came about due to the fact that I was not sure that I should teach Pak Mei at the time. Also, I needed to have a boxing that was based on physics, not the movements of mythical animals or that took too long to learn. In other words – quick, effective, and powerful. By quick to learn I mean less than 7 or 8 years to be effective and that would work in a lot of different situations. Not a sport, not pretty, and not for movies. I spent a lot of time researching different types and the things that one runs into in real life. This research was not done by theory but by using it in a method that was painful and did produce some damage to each opponent. The training was designed to 4 of my students to fight in the full contact tournament in Taiwan, which is bare knuckle. The rules in Taiwan were simple, you could use ground work, low kicks, take downs, etc. I had approximately 3 years to produce winners. I taught them a type of iron hand that required boiling in medicine; being able to fight full contact with just a mouth guard and a cup. They were celibate for the period of training, (or supposed to be). They could run 5 miles or more each day and do knuckle push-ups on gravel – anything. I taught them body conditioning so they could take a punch and how to deal with strikes anywhere on their body. The rules used in Taiwan were simple and few at that time. An example of the first time, held two fighters were killed. Some papers in Asia billed it as the Taiwanese blood bath. The times that my four were challenged before hand, they never lost. The bouts were three, 3 minute rounds and you could even throw a man out of the ring. It was brutal and the injuries were staggering! There is a lot more to training with those four sets that I have not gone into, and I won’t. I will not teach anyone ever again like those four. First, I do not think there is anyone with that dedication to go through it, and it is a brutalizing experience for the fighters. There also are things that I taught them, that I wouldn’t trust to anyone now. The two last sets have things that should stay with only those four and no one else. The movements are definitely not to be used for sport. There is no other than those four that know how it really works as the sets were designed for them only and so no one could work out anything dangerous without the knowledge from me or one of mine. Two have not done them for years, one is dead – that leaves Mike and myself. We are the only two left that have any knowledge of how they really work. The sets themselves need to have with them the knowledge that is visible and were passed on by me and written by Mike. They are ours to determine what happens to them and cannot be bought. They are a precursor to learning the Pak Mei as I was taught and only the few ever learn. My style as the great teacher Cheung Lai-Chun practiced will not be for sale and if only one tode learns it, it will not die. It lasted many years in China when names of boxing were not used and will continue long after my death and my todes are gone. This is the real proof of a real art, that it will exist long after the founders are gone."
    Last edited by Faruq; 06-22-2010 at 11:57 AM.
    I was on the metro earlier, deep in meditation, when a ruffian came over and started causing trouble. He started pushing me with his bag, steadily increasing the force until it became very annoying. When I turned to him, before I could ask him to stop, he immediately started hurling abuse like a scoundrel. I performed a basic chin na - carotid artery strike combination and sent him to sleep. The rest of my journey was very peaceful, and passersby hailed me as a hero - Warrior Man

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