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  1. #31
    Man there's no shortage in humor

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by edward View Post
    Man there's no shortage in humor
    yeah!... your video is proof of that

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    i know you keep cracking me up......i wish i can write as much as you and show zero at the same time.. that's skill..

  4. #34
    thanks !

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by LSWCTN1 View Post
    the strike should manipulate or control the opponents arm always. not just a chi sao idea

    Would you care to explain???

    GH

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by imperialtaichi View Post
    Thanks GH

    Ok, what about if someone decides to take a couple of your punches and wrap you up and throw you to the ground? Typical jujitsu type scenario.

    In my opinion, if we train our strikes effectively, the opponent would fall before being able to pull us down. But what if the opponent is used to taking punches? Do we have a back-up plan since we are not ground fighting specialists?

    Cheers,
    John
    John

    I'm not sure using the words..."If someone decides"......As my Instructor says....there is no time in fighting to think. Chi Sau gives us the tools to react instinctively hopefully using the correct action to shut down your opponent by attacking. Your thinking is correct by stating that we must train our strikes. Ving Tsun is a method of using the whole body for punching. Attention should be given to training the punch. The whole system exercises this idea.
    Nobody is superhuman. If we are out fought then its just not our day. Bil Jee tells this. We must use brains to cut ones losses. The best back up plan is to run away!!!!!

    GH

  7. #37
    "What if he does this ? " fighting is arm chair battling...what if they pull a gun or a knife ?
    What if there are 2-3 more guys and your back is against the wall ? What if there are 2-3 or more of you and 5-6 of them with bottles , knives, crowd fighting in a chaotic environment ? Yes, sometimes you have to run, because the guy your trying to fight took off down the street when you started to attack him Its not always US that has to run from a fight.
    Vt is like being a psycho attacker, caution has to be taken before witnesses , due to the fact that even though you may be the one 'defending ' oneself, it looks to outsiders like a guy shoved you and you annihilated him for it with raining punches and kicks as he tries to get away from you...sometimes running away.
    I have been involved in fights like this, where the 'good guys' vt friends , got involved defending waiters at a regular local Chinese restaurant we ate at from drunken 'suits' trying to fight them for 'sport' ....the vt guys got arrested for being seen as the ones beating the others up by witnesses . Jail for the good guys! defending the waiters because they had become so violent in their abilities to defend themselves they appeared to be the 'aggressors' .

    Mental attitudes change as you fight more, you become less inclined to wait for guys to even have a chance to 'shape up' or make a first move on you. At the first sign of trouble or someone in 'your face' the vt 'welcome mat' is unleashed and its over before it ever got going.
    Experience will be the only way to gain this personal level of knowing when to deliver a preemptive strike. Making whatever the guy does less of an issue because they are dealing with a broken jaw, nose, concussion....or a change in attitude to getting close to you again

    Like GH mentions , sometimes the Bear wins.
    Last edited by k gledhill; 07-18-2010 at 07:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    you become less inclined to wait for guys to even have a chance to 'shape up' or make a first move on you. At the first sign of trouble or someone in 'your face' the vt 'welcome mat' is unleashed and its over before it ever got going.
    .
    Perfect VT theory!!!!

    GH

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    "if someone decides" is, of course, a figure of speech.
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    In my opinion, there is no such thing as "excessive force" when your life in on the line. Unfortunately, the public, the jury, and people who had never been in a fight very often do not understand this.

    In a real fight, unless the person is a seasoned fighter, most of us would be running on adrenaline and not brains. It is natural that an animal would do whatever to survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham H View Post
    Would you care to explain???

    GH
    we learn 'dont attack the castle, attack the walls';
    meaning we shouldnt go headhunting without checking the arms. in our vt we dont trade hits.

    it doesnt necessarily mean our bridges must always connect (although that tends to be the case). what i mean is that our striking arm should ALWAYS control the situation, and therefore the arms.

    A good example: when i was with my present instructor for just a few months, i asked about the defence from a haymaker as i had never seen it shown and in all other vt i had seen until that point it was vt 101.

    he showed me his interpretation

    there was NO tan-da etc. it was just strike. the strike was a kinda tok sau i gues. causing an uproot and leaving no power in the haymaker. and it works.

    same thing with angling. whilst angling you should always be in control of their bridges, even if this means without touching them.

    does that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    coming from the flag waving, ring of death merchant your deluded...
    Ah! A classic coming from the eldest frog in the deepest well
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneTiger108 View Post
    Ah! A classic coming from the eldest frog in the deepest well
    oh well...at least Im trying to get out and see more than the small circle of sky above me...maybe I will see more than i do right now...maybe...so i keep trying.
    Last edited by k gledhill; 07-19-2010 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    oh well...at least Im trying to get out and see more than the small circle of sky above me...maybe I will see more than i do right now...maybe...so i keep trying.
    Is this the directors cut response? It was shorter yesterday.

    Seriously, what do you know about my social circles? I am very happy with the amount of skilled martial artists I have met, outside of my own well. Obviously, I admit, when I was training with Sifu I was not so sociable, but since 2003 I have managed to get out much much more than I thought I would!

    Looking at your recent responses in threads it looks like you need to keep trying harder yourself, as you can't even be civilized to a fellow WSL practitioner. Believe me, your own house is more important than all the other houses in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    . . . . Kwan sao is a low bong done on the dummy for ballistic displacement, . . . .
    Kwan sao can also use an upper gate bong. Kwan sao (upper), and daaih kwan sao (lower)
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