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    Xiao Meng,

    Everything that we buy and sell, all of it, is made up. Some people make it up, and they have leverage of some kind, for whatever reason, and then they can sell it, sometimes for expensive prices.

    Then, you got people that don't have leverage, for whatever reason, and they can sell it, sometimes for moderate prices....And on and on.

    Green Dragon's Iron Palm stuff is 100 bucks. James Mcneil's is 100 bucks. Some others are 200. Doo's is what, 500 on the web? Hey, what can I say, he's Chinese. LOL! Lao Wai is gonna pay! hehehe!

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    Jamieson,

    Talking for me, that is just it though. I haven't followed him. I got some of his information cheap. So what? It's not crap that I am clinging to. I am not clinging to it. I am just explaining to you that some of their methods are good. You make it out like I am a representative of their style and could give a shiit about their lineage...If he was selling it for 100 dollars, and acted properly, you wouldn't call him a charlatan. But, you would still wear your Nike shoes...If we want to look at it from the point of view of money, what Sifu do you know that isn't a charlatan? Come on, just a little bit right? hehe.

    I am all for truth. That's it. I am not for arguing advertising philosophy on a kung fu forum...

    You want to talk about iron palm, iron body, two man, forms, meds, cool. A hanging bag for iron palm is ideal because it is, hanging. You can build up your resistance slowly and get a different effect than slapping it on top of concrete or whatever. The heavier the bag, and the different materials, causes differences in resistance, which in turn causes differences in power and intent. As for the water training, do you know what it is? Do you think that it is a good idea to intend on making your hands act like water, so to speak?

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao3 Meng4 View Post
    Here's the thing:

    If Doo Wai makes sh*t up and sells it at a stupidly high price ($600 for his Wing Chun instructional tapes,) what's to say that he hasn't made cr@p up about his IP and everything else? His entire M.O. is self-serving charlatanry.

    I'd get a kick out of Dale's critique of Doo Wai's IP training methods; I'm guessing the "real" aspects of his IP are really basic, and really expensive.

    BTW, What are BFP's lesson fees? What's the fee for IP? Is there personal instruction or is it all via $500+ videos?
    I dont know about the Wing Chun! Can you please point to the site. Thank you in advance!

    I dont pay anything. I've been with Sifu Garry for 10yrs now.

    I train one of his BFP Iron Palm methods (for free.LOLOL) and the training is nothing out the ordinary. I've also trained YKM iron palm (under Sifu Garry), Allen Lee's iron palm and the only difference is that BFP has more meditations. Everything else consist of hitting a bag.


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    Look guys, if you wanna cling to that crap, go ahead. It's your crap and not mine.

    -Exactly and we have see your crap. So its ok we will cling to ours.



    I don't have a personal agenda, I'm just pointing out my observations according to what doo wai has provided everybody with over he years.

    - I could care less if you did! over the years? Everybody is going by some videos he posted at 80 yrs of age! Most sifu's at his age perform their forms slow as hell so they dont fall off balance or loss posture. And your busting the mans balls behind that.LOLOL



    he is a charlatan. But if you've wasted a good chunk of your life following him, then, well I guess you will cling to it rather than take a look at what it really is.

    - Charlatan? Maybe! I don't know him well enough to talk, but he's got some good Fu. At least the way my sifu teaches it!

    - You are assuming its a waste of time. Mere speculation, because to have proof you would have to train the system and feel it for yourself. Brother, I've trained boxing, kickboxing, MT and Yau Kung Mun! I dont have a fairytale resume! I'm pretty sure that I would be able to smell BS from a mile away. I stay away from all tales told in Chinese Kung Fu. If I wanted stories I would go to the book store. I love to train the hands, thats why I'm with my Sifu and Kru. They keep me grounded in reality!


    anyway, I"m not going to try to convince you. You've already convinced yourself.

    - No, my Sifu has, with the material he has had me training!

    Nobody defends this eejot except people who have paid him through the nose for his junk.

    - Funny, I haven't paid a single penny!LOLOL The best things in life are free!LOLOL

    Buby
    Last edited by Jorge; 08-18-2010 at 05:40 PM.

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    really buby? what have you seen of my crap? lol
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Bubs, would you ever consider putting up some footage, or even just e-mailing some clips privately to show how you train. I've always been impressed based on what Sifu Garry's always said about you, and would really like to see how you train. At least the sparring, or playing hands.

    Also, they tell me this article's about Bak Fu Pai:

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    [QUOTE=Jorge;1032931]
    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Do you really think his stuff looks normal? really? I think the tom foolery with that camp is 100% self evident. From wrapping straight swords to dressing up and throwing weakly formed punches while not even connected to the ground!

    One doesn't need to be connected to the ground in order to Fajin. Thats where the spine comes into play. Jook Lum Mantis has the same theory! Do you know your short hand?

    Yes, it does look normal! I hit hanging bags to train my iron palm...How many schools don't train in the same fashion. I put on Jow and hit a bag. Whats so Tom Foolery about that. The only Tom Foolery is you making believe you know what we train. Which is very obvious that you don't. Let me find out, you think I train with a Merlin hat on.LOLOL


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    Last edited by Faruq; 08-19-2011 at 07:21 PM.
    I was on the metro earlier, deep in meditation, when a ruffian came over and started causing trouble. He started pushing me with his bag, steadily increasing the force until it became very annoying. When I turned to him, before I could ask him to stop, he immediately started hurling abuse like a scoundrel. I performed a basic chin na - carotid artery strike combination and sent him to sleep. The rest of my journey was very peaceful, and passersby hailed me as a hero - Warrior Man

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    David Ross....you don't have the right to play with our Teacher's photo....go and play with your photos.


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    Dr Harut

    Remember, even if you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter!

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    well, like LKFMDC - he's a genuine Kung Fu Hero™
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Harut View Post
    David Ross....you don't have the right to play with our Teacher's photo....go and play with your photos.
    actually, parody of images of pubic personalities that exist in the public domain is perfectly legal; so he has every right to do just that;

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    Lkfmdc,

    Just paid loan. Watch this soy choy. Okay, mma guys do this. BRB gotta do some translating.

    LOL

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    I wish I could hire some vampire hitman for these guys.... seriously.
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    He should resurrect Billy Mays as his pitchman!
    I dam near fell outta my chair laughing at that.........
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    So, for example, if I get unethical and childish like Ross and play with his teacher's photo that would be legal yes? Although am not unethical as Ross is.

    Am an athlete or supporter,that can be judged live...and I consider myself a practitionar of martial arts since 1976.
    Last edited by Dr.Harut; 08-18-2010 at 02:28 PM.


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    So, for example, if I get unethical and childish like Ross and play with his teacher's photo that would be legal yes? Although am not unethical as Ross is
    who cares it's the interwebs.....

    some people take sh!t way to serious....

    And a warning.... Ross has a way with getting under peoples skin... ask our local ding bat... he's infatuated with him......
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    If he's all cranky and pulling his panties out of his crack over THAT, just wait
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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