Choy Li Fut was named by Chan Heung based on his 3 teachers.
Chan Heung had three teachers and named his system after two of them and the fact that it all came from the Shaolin Temple, hence the Fut for meaning Buddha.
and he opened up schools/branches/clubs under that name.
Choy Lee Fut is the name of the system, not the school. so yes, HE opened his own school teaching the early stages of his new system.
Jeong Yim trained is said to have trained with a common teacher Li Yau San before training with Chan Heung for 5 years from the age of 12. Next we trained with Ching Mo.
yes...in 1836 Jeung Yim trained with Chan Heung till 1841 when he was 17 years old. Since Choy Lee Fut was nowhere near any kind of a complete stage, Jeung Yim only picked up what was taught within that 5 year period of its creation. So his training in CLF was incomplete. During the time he was under the Green Grass Monk CLF continued to EVOLVE and Jeung Yim wasn't there to be a part of that.
Then he trained under the Green Grass Monk, completing the system in 8 years. It was the Green Grass Monk that asked Jeung Yim to go to Fut San to teach the Hung Mun, NOT Chan Heung.
So, if Jeung Yim never completed his Lee Gar training under Lee Yau San, nor under Chan Heung, what was it that Jeung Yim was teaching in Fut San in 1851? Since the only system he completed was Fut Gar Kuen, it makes sense it was Fut Gar Kuen, and as he developed his fighting method it was mixed with whatever Choy Lee Fut he picked up and Lee Gar.
So while in Fut San was Jeung Yim representing Chan Heung and Choy Lee Fut? NO. He was only following instructions to open a school in fut san by the Green Grass Monk. It wasn't until Jeung Yim returned to Chan Heung sometime around 1864 or so that he returned to the Choy Lee Fut picture. During that time, jeung hung sing shared what he learned from the Green Grass Monk with Chan Heung. This is the point that CLF took on its FIRST transformation.
So to answer this question simply, yes Jeung Yim was a former disciple of Chan Heung, but NO, he was not in fut san representing chan heung in 1851.
f not, why did he use Chan Heung's style name "Choy Li Fut"?
It probably took place after Jeung Yim's return to chan heung after being OUT OF THE CHOY LEE FUT PICTURE for more than 20 years. and since Jeung Hung Sing knew the basic techniques of chan heung's choy lee fut, it's possible that Jeung Hung Sing agree'd to be part of the CLF family again.
But, it is rumored that Jeung Hung Sing never called his gung fu CHOY LEE FUT, it was others that did that. HUNG SING KUEN or even Fut Gar was used in the early stages from what i hear.
Last edited by hskwarrior; 09-09-2010 at 09:12 AM.
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