Push hands - what are the ins-n-outs?

[omarthefish]

so he quit cause of his shoulder???? after all that i was happy to see the two teamates(they were teamates ya?) go against eachother and how low they got on eachother im thinking, oh this might take a minute... then he quit... too bad...

I didn't see anything in the description of the clip to indicate that they were team mates. I think they were just good sportsman.

anyways, the throws and sweeps were nice, very subtle and gentle for the most part...
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so if thats a "tame" event, show me a rough and brutal one... please?

That's what I meant by "tame". I didn't watch it to the end so I didn't realize it got livelier as it went on. I just saw the first few techniques which seemed, as you put it, "subtle and gentle". I've seen some stuff out of Chen village that looked more just like someone took Judo and disallowed gi-grips.

p.s. Wow. It really did get better as it went on.