Looking for WSL vs fencer clip

**Eric_H** · 09-10-2010, 04:52 PM

Hello,

I recently have read that the late Wong Shueng Leung had a televised match in where he squared off with a fencer using the baat cham do. I've been unable to find this clip on the internet, does anyone have a copy of it?

Thanks,

**bennyvt** · 09-10-2010, 07:28 PM

Been looking man. It was on live and had to be stopped as WSL cut him to pieces. Funny thing was the swords were blunt but the dude hacked at them with his sabre and turned them serated. They had to stop as he was bleeding everywhere

**Buddha_Fist** · 09-10-2010, 08:14 PM

Benny,

Did you watch the footage?

B

**bennyvt** · 09-11-2010, 12:53 AM

No, way too young. Asked a few of his students about it.

**k gledhill** · 09-11-2010, 06:48 PM

I heard the same.

**Eric_H** · 09-12-2010, 03:55 PM

Dang, that's something that I'd love to see

**Phil Redmond** · 09-13-2010, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by bennyvt

Been looking man. It was on live and had to be stopped as WSL cut him to pieces. Funny thing was the swords were blunt but the dude hacked at them with his sabre and turned them serated. They had to stop as he was bleeding everywhere

They say people go to car races hoping to see a crash. I hope I not on the same page as them but I'd love to see that footage of Si-Bak WSL myself.

**chusauli** · 09-13-2010, 11:59 AM

Sounds incredible, I don't think people in WCK would fare well against a fencer or escrimador.

**sanjuro_ronin** · 09-13-2010, 12:10 PM

Anyone know the name of the fencer?
I mean, if some recall so vividly the result then the name should be remembered also.

**LoneTiger108** · 09-15-2010, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by chusauli

Sounds incredible, I don't think people in WCK would fare well against a fencer or escrimador.

As always Chu Sifu, you're speaking of yourself here?? Definitely NOT speaking for me

With regards to the WSL/Fencer clip, personally I think this was just a rumour that spread from another event entirely and I will tell you why. As far as I know, and I have had the story verified by a few sources, there was a stand off between a Wing Chun pratitioner and an Olympian Fencer but it definitely wasn't televised.

The WC practitioner actually used two foils against the fencer in a playful sparring session and gained the upper hand. Impressing the fencer so much that he wondered how he could do that when he had never held or used a foil in his life.

The reply was that he had practised the BJD from Wing Chun. The practitioner was not WSL it was someone from the Lee Shing family

**chusauli** · 09-15-2010, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by LoneTiger108

As always Chu Sifu, you're speaking of yourself here?? Definitely NOT speaking for me

With regards to the WSL/Fencer clip, personally I think this was just a rumour that spread from another event entirely and I will tell you why. As far as I know, and I have had the story verified by a few sources, there was a stand off between a Wing Chun pratitioner and an Olympian Fencer but it definitely wasn't televised.

The WC practitioner actually used two foils against the fencer in a playful sparring session and gained the upper hand. Impressing the fencer so much that he wondered how he could do that when he had never held or used a foil in his life.

The reply was that he had practised the BJD from Wing Chun. The practitioner was not WSL it was someone from the Lee Shing family

Spencer,

I'd never speak for you.

Your tales are wonderful enough!

Which Lee Shing family person was this? Two foils vs one on an Olympic Fencer? Of course, modesty must prevent you from revealing your source! The Olympic Fencer was probably laughing! You certainly don't use a foil (a stabbing and lunging weapon) like WCK's knives (a slashing, chopping and stabbing weapon).

Did Lee Shing teach the BJD? Why did Austin Goh have to learn it from Yip Chun? His book shows him demoing Yip Chun's set...

**sanjuro_ronin** · 09-13-2010, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by bennyvt

Been looking man. It was on live and had to be stopped as WSL cut him to pieces. Funny thing was the swords were blunt but the dude hacked at them with his sabre and turned them serated. They had to stop as he was bleeding everywhere

That is pretty strange since attacking another's blade or even hacking is NOT what any decent sabre user would do.
Matter of fact, anyone that has used a sword in any practical way knows NOT to hit and avoid as much as possible, steel on steel.

**Buddha_Fist** · 09-13-2010, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin

That is pretty strange since attacking another's blade or even hacking is NOT what any decent sabre user would do.
Matter of fact, anyone that has used a sword in any practical way knows NOT to hit and avoid as much as possible, steel on steel.

Kinda like with the pole... Focus on the man... Or like the hands... Don't chase hands...

**chusauli** · 09-13-2010, 03:38 PM

Well, its easy...any of WSL descendants think they could do the same thing against a decent fencer or escrimador?

**shawchemical** · 09-13-2010, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by chusauli

Well, its easy...any of WSL descendants think they could do the same thing against a decent fencer or escrimador?

Your comparison uses two dissimilar styles, making the comparison bunk.

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