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    Wah Lum Big Mantis

    Does anyone know if this is the Wah Lum "Big Mantis" set?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeFT...eature=related
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    peace! please excuse me for my lack of understanding of this form and wah lum in general, but this form looks very southern. the salute is southern and the movements look kinda southern to me also. i have had some hung gar and choy lay fut training and when he chambers that punch and pushes out that bridge it looks like hung gar a little. again i could be totally wrong and wah lum my have some southern mixed into it. sorry to go off topic.

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    all tho he does have alot of the stomping that is known in nothern mantis.

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    no disrespect at all but why oh why do teachers or students reffer to themselves as MASTER?

    I liked his set but with his sometimes akward movements, non- rooting and his lack of focus and even head position all over the place the set looked a little like a student was performing not a master. again no disrepect, just an observation.

    master to me means you cannot learn anymore as you have mastered your art what ever art that is.... martial arts is almost impossible to do that.
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    Thumbs down It is a version of 1st Fist Form

    mooyingmantis,

    No, it's not Big Mantis.

    It's supposed to be 1st Fist Form.


    - Pete


    Quote Originally Posted by mooyingmantis View Post
    Does anyone know if this is the Wah Lum "Big Mantis" set?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeFT...eature=related
    - Spidey

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    big mantis

    nope, not big mantis.
    wah lum's big mantis is beng bu, MC changed the name to big mantis at some point in time, not sure why.
    the form is supposed to be first form, not the best performance for sure.

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    This is Bruce Linville, I believe he may have studied WL with Yao Li, one of MC`s early students from Boston. Now I wonder if this version of 1st form is an early rendition or if Shifu Linville changed it up. I certainly did not learn it this way. And yes it does have a southern feel and look to it. I have my theory about WL, but I dont dare want to start WWIII. And about Big Mantis Form, I have seen 3 differant versions. Maybe I should put it up for viewing, note I am doing it slowly for reference purposes.
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    As stated, this is not big mantis. this is a version of Wah Lum 1st Form, though it has some odd movements in it.

    I would love to see a video clip of Wah Lum's Big Mantis! I have yet to see my Sifu perform it since we transitioned out of Wah Lum material. I would love to see how it differs from the Bung Bo I know.

    cheers!

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    Yu shan,
    Shifu Linville changed it up.
    you refer to him a shifu but he calls himself master? confused


    Maybe I should put it up for viewing, note I am doing it slowly for reference purposes
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    I like how you put a disclaimer in this sentance, no worries mang, even slow you can see if someone is good or just learning, there are many tapes of my shifu doing forms slow but you can see the "properness" of the set
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    Search me ED, there are a lot of self appointed masters in this area.
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    In your area too? LOL I thought it was just NY.

    Robert Summers a well respected TKD guy from the old school in the 60's & 70's had a student named ketchen, he opened his own school and ran a BB factory for years turing out BB in a year from beginners.

    Robert Summers died and the next week ketchen bought a new sign called MASTER Ketchens school of TKD, when his own students asked he said his teacher appointed him master on his deathbed.
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    Jin Gon Tzu Li Gung (Medical) Qigong
    Wu style Taiji Chuan



    Teacher always told his students, "You need to have Wude, patient, tolerance, humble, ..." When he died, his last words to his students was, "Remember that the true meaning of TCMA is fierce, poison, and kill."

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    Thanks for the info guys!

    Jim,
    We would love to see you do Big Mantis. I always enjoy seeing your clips.
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    OMG!!!

    WHOLY KRAP!!....

    Good lord

    I'm just going to keep my big mouth shut on this one.... LOL


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    this is a version of big mantis.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpybIgYjVvA
    although shorter than the version i have.

    Big Mantis is what i call a carrot form... (hee haw)

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    Ironfenix,
    Thank you for posting the form! Very different from what I expected, but very nice to see.
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