Books on bjj

[KC Elbows]

Any recommended books? Not to replace actual live instruction, but to supplement, that have a good comprehensive and rational presentation of the style? Just curious, thanks.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Why not DVD?
Bjj for what? competition? MMA?

[t_niehoff]

Any recommended books? Not to replace actual live instruction, but to supplement, that have a good comprehensive and rational presentation of the style? Just curious, thanks.

http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Juji...5&sr=1-1-spell

[MightyB]

I liked this one for the drills: http://www.amazon.com/Championship-T...098547&sr=8-15

this one's good: http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Rubb...5098606&sr=8-1

[KC Elbows]

Why not DVD?
Bjj for what? competition? MMA?

MMA and chi retention.

[KC Elbows]

I've got Noguiero's(sp?) book on the guard, and was going to pick up that book on the rubber guard, since there's a copy for next to nothing at the used book store by me(also one on the X guard?).

BTW, if anyone doesn't care for a book and why, that would be helpful, also, I suppose.

DVD's are good, too.

[sanjuro_ronin]

MMA and chi retention.

Anything by Rickson Gracie, LOL !

[MightyB]

I've got Noguiero's(sp?) book on the guard, and was going to pick up that book on the rubber guard, since there's a copy for next to nothing at the used book store by me(also one on the X guard?).

BTW, if anyone doesn't care for a book and why, that would be helpful, also, I suppose.

DVD's are good, too.

I have the Rubber Guard by Eddie Bravo. I really like the progression of the book. It starts with the half guard and works it way systematically up to the rubber guard.

I don't like his extensive expositions on the glory of marijuana - or his exploits with his psycho ex girlfriend - or his essays on musical theory... so, skip the forward.

[BJJ-Blue]

http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Juji...5&sr=1-1-spell

Renzo Gracie also wrote this one that I recommend as well:

http://www.amazon.com/Brazilian-Jiu-...tt_at_ep_dpt_1

[Frost]

for the love of god dont get anything from eddie bravo please develop a ground game before attempting his stuff

If you are new anything from matt thornton is your best bet, his way of breaking down basics is the best out there bar none

His tapes should be required watching for everyone new to grappling

For guard work Id reccomend my coaches tapes but dont think you can get his stuff in the states

[KC Elbows]

for the love of god dont get anything from eddie bravo please develop a ground game before attempting his stuff

If you are new anything from matt thornton is your best bet, his way of breaking down basics is the best out there bar none

His tapes should be required watching for everyone new to grappling

For guard work Id reccomend my coaches tapes but dont think you can get his stuff in the states

Are you saying don't get the Bravo stuff because it's not good, or because it would overcomplicate things?

[Frost]

Are you saying don't get the Bravo stuff because it's not good, or because it would overcomplicate things?

His stuff IS overcomplicated and this teaches bad habbits to beginners, people play with the rubber guard and forget about the basics of BJJ, hip movement, framing etc. Its also leads to people even good guys forgetting about the rest of the game, I cant count the number of fighters that my coach has had to retrain coming back from his place

But the basic thing is he is overhyped and hasn't produced any really good grapplers in years, go with guys that produce good grapplers and teach the basics over and over

[KC Elbows]

His stuff IS overcomplicated and this teaches bad habbits to beginners, people play with the rubber guard and forget about the basics of BJJ, hip movement, framing etc. Its also leads to people even good guys forgetting about the rest of the game, I cant count the number of fighters that my coach has had to retrain coming back from his place

But the basic thing is he is overhyped and hasn't produced any really good grapplers in years, go with guys that produce good grapplers and teach the basics over and over

What are your thoughts on Noguiero's book on the guard?

[Frost]

What are your thoughts on Noguiero's book on the guard?

honestly i haven't seen it, but Nogs one of the best there is, and has produced lots of good students...so anything from him would be good

[BJJ-Blue]

His stuff IS overcomplicated and this teaches bad habbits to beginners, people play with the rubber guard and forget about the basics of BJJ, hip movement, framing etc.

This is true about people who are exposed to advanced techniques before being taught the basics. From my experience, the best guys on the mat tend to be the guys who start at Step 1 and learn the basics very well before going onto advanced stuff. The guys who come in and immediately try to learn omaplatas, rolling kneebars, flying armbars, rubber guard, etc do not do nearly as well.