Books on bjj

[KC Elbows]

How about good online resources? Just saw some Thornton vids, but the site they were on played twitchy on my computer. Still, cool stuff.

[MightyB]

His stuff IS overcomplicated and this teaches bad habbits to beginners, people play with the rubber guard and forget about the basics of BJJ, hip movement, framing etc. Its also leads to people even good guys forgetting about the rest of the game, I cant count the number of fighters that my coach has had to retrain coming back from his place

But the basic thing is he is overhyped and hasn't produced any really good grapplers in years, go with guys that produce good grapplers and teach the basics over and over

I wouldn't rely too heavily on his stuff, but I didn't hate it nearly as much as you guys. One thing I really liked about his book is the progression of the techniques where as I've bought a couple of other books where the techniques are just all over the place with no reason or logic behind their placement. I don't have nearly as much trouble with his stuff as you're describing as a "beginner" in BJJ, but then again I'm coming in with a lot of years of Judo training as a foundation.

My favorite as a competitor though is the Champion Techniques one I linked to earlier by Machado. A lot of drills, basics, and surprise techniques like setting up the reverse triangle from the guard which no one ever expects.

[MightyB]

How about good online resources? Just saw some Thornton vids, but the site they were on played twitchy on my computer. Still, cool stuff.

Bravo stuff, so the other guys will automatically hate it, but: http://www.youtube.com/user/Submissions101

[MasterKiller]

Or you could just moonlight at another school once in a while and learn it properly...

[Frost]

I wouldn't rely too heavily on his stuff, but I didn't hate it nearly as much as you guys. One thing I really liked about his book is the progression of the techniques where as I've bought a couple of other books where the techniques are just all over the place with no reason or logic behind their placement. I don't have nearly as much trouble with his stuff as you're describing as a "beginner" in BJJ, but then again I'm coming in with a lot of years of Judo training as a foundation.

My favorite as a competitor though is the Champion Techniques one I linked to earlier by Machado. A lot of drills, basics, and surprise techniques like setting up the reverse triangle from the guard which no one ever expects.

i dont hate Bravo, I just think he is overblown and living of a decade old victory, I also think his stuff is not high percentage and not stuff you should be using as your A game.

[chusauli]

An excellent text is:

http://www.amazon.com/Jiu-Jitsu-Univ.../dp/0981504434

But as for DVD's I would say Roy Harris, or his student Roy Dean are superb!

[Three Harmonies]

Nothing better than Benneville and Cartmell's "Passing the Guard." Essential reading IMO.

JAB

[KC Elbows]

Or you could just moonlight at another school once in a while and learn it properly...

I intend to learn it properly, just currently have little time, so I figured I'd do some research and get an idea what to expect, and try to make my resources ones that would be useful once I did start training in it.

[SoCo KungFu]

How about good online resources? Just saw some Thornton vids, but the site they were on played twitchy on my computer. Still, cool stuff.

I like www.lockflow.com
The regular updates they have on techniques are kinda assuming you have a decent base but you can also search the listing for pretty much any technique you can think of, usually with setups and stuff.

[KC Elbows]

BTW, thanks all, very helpful, except Master Killer, who is an angry angry man.

[sanjuro_ronin]

BTW, thanks all, very helpful, except Master Killer, who is an angry angry man.

But still gave you the best advice, LOL !

[KC Elbows]

Any recommended books? Not to replace actual live instruction, but to supplement, that have a good comprehensive and rational presentation of the style? Just curious, thanks.

But still gave you the best advice, LOL !

Well of course, if I hadn't given myself the advice first!

It's because of modding, before MK was like a cuddly panda, but three months after he started modding, he became hard, like the bony Olson twin.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Well of course, if I hadn't given myself the advice first!

It's because of modding, before MK was like a cuddly panda, but three months after he started modding, he became hard, like the bony Olson twin.

You Sir, have the boorish manners of a Yale man !
*walks away singing Fair Harvard*

[MightyB]

Speaking of Roy Harris...

I've always wanted to get his "Brazilian jiu jitsu over 40" DVD even though I'm only 36. The description seemed very solid. Only work high percentage techniques, conserve energy, and don't get hurt. Supposably it focuses on techniques that would keep you competitive with the young guys well into your 40s and 50s.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Speaking of Roy Harris...

I've always wanted to get his "Brazilian jiu jitsu over 40" DVD even though I'm only 36. The description seemed very solid. Only work high percentage techniques, conserve energy, and don't get hurt. Supposably it focuses on techniques that would keep you competitive with the young guys well into your 40s and 50s.

That's sounds intriguing, links?