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    kung fu or bjj

    Everyone always says brazilian jiu jitsu, here are old chinese kung fu photos from early 1900's

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    NOW.... where have I seen these before...lol


    didn't we have this discussion about the same pics before?
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
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    There is some debate as to where Shaui CHiao got those moves, with some argueing that they came from Judo, to which the early 1900's chinese MA were exposed to by the japanese.
    This Judo is where BJJ came from by the way, so the question isn't "kung fo or BJJ" but more correctly:
    Kung fu submissions and BJJ, same origins?
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    Egyptian BJJ out lineages them all!!!

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    Grappling, older than the hills on grannies chest and twice as dusty !!

    Of course some of those pictures look more like the Kama sutra than MA, LOL !
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    Grappling, older than the hills on grannies chest and twice as dusty !!
    aye... wrestling/grappling has been around as long as people have. I would consider it the oldest style.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    This:



    is from approx 1550 BCE

    boxing.... it's old too.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Many people seem to be under the impression that Greek Pankration influenced Kalarippayattu, though there are references to other arts prior to it, dating back to 2nd c. BCE.

    Pankration, frankly, is not known today. The revival form of the art is known to be considerably different from the original art practiced throughout the Helenic States... Further, it is predated itself by boxing (pygmachia) and wrestling (pale), which, again, have roots as far back as Sumeria (2600 BCE).
    roots are interwoven in human history.

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    Last edited by Dragonzbane76; 10-07-2010 at 08:21 AM.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    Dragon

    I must have missed the previous discussion on it.

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    no biggie, just stating I remember commenting on the photos and as Ronin stated there was discrepancies towards them and the originality of them is all i remember.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonzbane76 View Post
    aye... wrestling/grappling has been around as long as people have. I would consider it the oldest style.
    Which is why wrestling is the greatest of all martial arts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansuke View Post
    Which is why wrestling is the greatest of all martial arts.
    no boxing is.

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    photos

    I don't recall the previous discussion ...what's the source of the photos and what kf style are they associated with?

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    btw

    My first kf instructor had the glyphs on the wall of the school.....presented as proof of the kemetic origins of fighting arts ......

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