Bajiquan

[SPJ]

The static rooting may be important in the beginner training stage but it's not important after you have entered your intermediate or advance training stage. To be able to regain your balance after you lose it is much valuable skill to have.

This is why I strongly dislike the static Taiji push hands. It makes you to be afraid to move your feet around.

kao has to start with body contact or very close range.

so inch power (cun jin) is very important. (inch punch with your whole body)

so the practice of rooting or downward sinking power is very important in ba ji.

tai chi stresses sprialing from dan tian and waist or circling

ba ji stresses kao

both need strong rooting and minute movement or inch power.

static posture is absolutely needed in practice.

[YouKnowWho]

static posture is absolutely needed in practice.

I think "momentum - run your opponent down" is more important than the static posture.

[bawang]

people think baijiquan is so deadly because they stomp their feet and make a big noise

[SPJ]

people think baijiquan is so deadly because they stomp their feet and make a big noise

1. grinding step is common across all styles, such as tai chi and ba gua.

but grinding stomp is highly developed in ba ji.

depending on the shoes you wear and the ground surface (dirt, mattress or grass)

grinding may create jiu sound and stomp creates stomp sound.

when you land your front sole, a counter power from the ground is transferred upto your dan tian. and then you land your heel and sink your posture and power back to the ground. coupled with breathing and voicing heng or ha.

2. in tong bei, it is called deng and ta, you land your front sole and spring up, the power from the ground is transferred to the hand, you land your heel and sink your posture and hand to strike the opponent.

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[omarthefish]

Hey Wolfen, aren't you supposed to be busy hunting me down for a beatdown or something...

http://kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35835

It's been 7 years already. I'm starting to get anxious.

[SPJ]

Hey Wolfen, aren't you supposed to be busy hunting me down for a beatdown or something...

http://kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35835

It's been 7 years already. I'm starting to get anxious.

wow it has been 7 years.

me feels me getting old.

[SPJ]

bai.. ji... quan?


Ohhh! 百雞拳!

Old "Hundred Chicken Fu"

Hundred Chickens scare big noise, scratch feet, all right!

yes hundred cranes sing at the same time.

bai he qi ming

白鹤齐鸣

or hundred family/school of thoughts struggle to sound louder

bai jia zheng ming

百家争名

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[omarthefish]

Here's a Baji set (small frame) that is both good looking and really f'ing effective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfgaxxySGSQ

Smooth, rooted, extremely powerful and all the moves make tactical sense.

[SPJ]

1. yes. xiao jia is based on liang yi ding posture

it focuses on horizontal power or longitudinal power and movements (heng xiang and zhong xiang).

2. on top of up and down power (xia cheng or cheng zui jin).

3. there is also cross power or shi zi jin.

4. small entanglement or xiao chan and large entanglement or da chan (circles).

5. there are circles inside and outside of square/boxy structure.

6. there are relaxation (harnessing) and release power phases.

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[SPJ]

my point is that there are also a lot throws in xiao jia

if you express powers as if they are all about strikes

that is not correct.

peace out.

[Water-quan]

Here's a Baji set (small frame) that is both good looking and really f'ing effective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfgaxxySGSQ

Smooth, rooted, extremely powerful and all the moves make tactical sense.

*rolls eyes* - didn't you get the memo? You can't tell how effective something is by looking at somone punch thin air.

[Hardwork108]

.....You can't tell how effective something is by looking at somone punch thin air.

That is a great point to be kept in mind. Sometimes we do not see the power nor the particular "energies" and their effects by just watching forms.

[omarthefish]

*rolls eyes* - didn't you get the memo? You can't tell how effective something is by looking at somone punch thin air.

Guess I missed it.

But aside from the memo...

It's a stupid memo. You can tell a fair bit IF you actually have experience in what is being demoed. A professional boxing coach can tell a metric ton of stuff from watching a boxer shadowbox. At the very minimum, I can tell you that his movements match perfectly with everything I know from experience about how Bajiquan works. Unlike the video that started this thread, I can't really find anything to nitpick about.

Besides that point, there is also the fact that I have met up with at least one of his students and that there are plenty of clips of this guy teaching applications, throws, lots of good stuff. As a 10 year Baji disciple, I can tell you that, from every angle that I can analyze this guy (Lu Baochun) his Baji is world class.

Have you never appraised one of the old Japanese masters performance of Sanchin?

Yeah, the memo can kiss my ***

[SPJ]

I think "momentum - run your opponent down" is more important than the static posture.

agreed.

but starting and ending posture or body structure are also very important.