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    CLF and Mantis

    would these two styles work well togther?
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    They share stuff, don't share stuff...

    It wouldn't hurt to study both, but only when you have a handle on one before starting the other.
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    i was just watching the video below with your question in mind. Maybe some techniques, but this type of mantis movement is totally different that CLF.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPLjZ...eature=related
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    Go with CLF.
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    first may i ask why are you asking the question? do you have experience in one and wish to train the other? are you thinking about combining them in your training?

    most styles can work together but few compliment each other, adn these two would not compliemtn if thats your question.
    PS go with mantis, its a much more complete fighting art, provided you have a good teacher, otherwise no art will work for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    i was just watching the video below with your question in mind. Maybe some techniques, but this type of mantis movement is totally different that CLF.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPLjZ...eature=related
    LOL!

    Work together? No idea.

    However, the man who oversees the school in the video is Mike Biggie who teaches Northern Praying Mantis and Choy Li Fut (Doc Fai Wong lineage). So I guess it works for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EarthDragon View Post
    first may i ask why are you asking the question? do you have experience in one and wish to train the other? are you thinking about combining them in your training?

    most styles can work together but few compliment each other, adn these two would not compliemtn if thats your question.
    PS go with mantis, its a much more complete fighting art, provided you have a good teacher, otherwise no art will work for you
    Depends on how we are defining "complete."
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    A friend of mine trained TLQ with Xiao Peng in Taiwan, then CLF with Primicius in San Diego. The principles laced well together.

    It's essentially what Cha Chui would have been if you added more angular movements.

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    Cha chui also happens to be the most staple CLF technique.
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    violent,
    I meant complete as 8 step has a lot to offer, more so then a lot of styles out there, we incorporate herboloy, tui na, bone setting, anatomy, tai ji, IP, qigong. Not just the exernal stuff. Though you can find alot of old school techers who will teach all side of thier art, but its getting harder and harder to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EarthDragon View Post
    violent,
    I meant complete as 8 step has a lot to offer, more so then a lot of styles out there, we incorporate herboloy, tui na, bone setting, anatomy, tai ji, IP, qigong. Not just the exernal stuff. Though you can find alot of old school techers who will teach all side of thier art, but its getting harder and harder to find.
    In that case I agree with you.

    Although Chan Family CLF (which I do not study or endorse) probably is the most "complete" and comparable to 8-step.

    But that is not for me to speak about, I only know Hung Sing & Buk Sing.
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