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Thread: McDonalds given a waiver on Obamacare

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    McDonalds given a waiver on Obamacare

    "Nearly a million workers won't get a consumer protection in the U.S. health reform law meant to cap insurance costs because the government exempted their employers.

    Thirty companies and organizations, including McDonald's (MCD) and Jack in the Box (JACK), won't be required to raise the minimum annual benefit included in low-cost health plans, which are often used to cover part-time or low-wage employees.

    The Department of Health and Human Services, which provided a list of exemptions, said it granted waivers in late September so workers with such plans wouldn't lose coverage from employers who might choose instead to drop health insurance altogether.

    Without waivers, companies would have had to provide a minimum of $750,000 in coverage next year, increasing to $1.25 million in 2012, $2 million in 2013 and unlimited in 2014.

    "The big political issue here is the president promised no one would lose the coverage they've got," says Robert Laszewski, chief executive officer of consulting company Health Policy and Strategy Associates. "Here we are a month before the election, and these companies represent 1 million people who would lose the coverage they've got.""

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    http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...T_N.htm?csp=hf

    Wow, so many of Obama's lies on Healthcare are on display. He said costs would go down, he was wrong. He said no one would lose their existing insurance, he was wrong. He said premiums would come down, he was wrong. Looks like the "Party of No" was right on the money. Looks like when you pass a bill you admit you didn't even bother to read, huge problems are coming.

    And notice he gave McDonalds and other big businesses the waivers. What about small businesses who will have to drop workers? Will those thousands of small businesses get waivers too? Or do the liberals only exempt 'Big Business'?
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    disinformation again?

    lol

    this is like the guy in china who goes home night after night and says to his wife "Chinese food again?"



    what I want to know is why do you post that crap here?

    I only troll you because of these weird ass totally disconnected from reality messages about right wing political viewpoints in a freaking chinese martial arts community?

    and the fact that you are oblivious to the weirdness of your behaviour is even more outstanding.

    seriously dude, seek professional help.
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    McDonald's is one of the leading lobbyists for allowing guest workers to cross the border because they want an unlimited supply of unskilled temporary workers that they don't have to pay minimum wage to or supply health insurance for.

    Yay Capitalism!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    McDonald's is one of the leading lobbyists for allowing guest workers to cross the border because they want an unlimited supply of unskilled temporary workers that they don't have to pay minimum wage to or supply health insurance for.

    Yay Capitalism!
    And yet people love their McDonalds and keep filling their guts with their garbage and giving them their money.

    yay capitalism indeed. consumers are part of the equation too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    disinformation again?
    Just shut up. If all you can do is deny legit sources and duck questions, why even post?

    Maybe you can produce sources to prove I am spreading disinformation. Of course I figure I'll see pigs fly and unemployment fall below 8% before you source anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    McDonald's is one of the leading lobbyists for allowing guest workers to cross the border because they want an unlimited supply of unskilled temporary workers that they don't have to pay minimum wage to or supply health insurance for.

    Yay Capitalism!
    I thought Obama was the champion of the 'little guy'? Why did he grant that horrible, evil, greedy corporation a waiver then? I thought Obama promised 'Change'? He said he was gonna stand tough against lobbyists. What happened?

    And I notice you didn't touch the fact that every promise they made about this bill is turning out to be a lie. You guys may hate me, but facts are facts.

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    Mcdonlads argument is they cannot afford to cover the health care of the hourly workers using the Obamacare model,they would be forced to drop coverage for these folks today. there are at least 50 large corps filing the same paperwork to get waivers. My understadning is these are not small mom and pop companies but Fortune 500 size comapnies. I expect to see many many more of these until the Obamacare model is still born.

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    Because McDonalds takes such good care of its employees, right?

    And I'm afraid, DJ, that the liberals do not have ownership of TCMA. In fact, China is largely conservative in nature. But I doubt anyone understands the real meaning of "liberal" and "conservative". You know... like a liberal republican or a conservative democrat. All you PS rookies just lump them together and then wonder why you don't make any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solo1 View Post
    Mcdonlads argument is they cannot afford to cover the health care of the hourly workers using the Obamacare model,they would be forced to drop coverage for these folks today. there are at least 50 large corps filing the same paperwork to get waivers. My understadning is these are not small mom and pop companies but Fortune 500 size comapnies. I expect to see many many more of these until the Obamacare model is still born.
    I believe the plan is not to get people on private insurance. The plan is to force companies to drop employees, and to force the insurance companies out of business. Then people will be forced to look to Gov't for healthcare, ie single-payer socialized medicine. Time will tell...

    As to the waivers, I truly believe once the elections are over (either the 2010 or the 2012 elections, but no later), the waivers will be dropped. The Democrats simply cannot have hundreds of thousands of low paid workers losing their heathcare less than a month before the election due to laws they passed. Thus the waivers were granted.

    Remember guys, all throught the healthcare debate, the GOP was telling people that the costs would rise and thus people would be dropped by their employers/providers. We now know without a doubt that they were 100% correct. Yet people are still saying Obamacare is going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ-Blue View Post
    I believe the plan is not to get people on private insurance. The plan is to force companies to drop employees, and to force the insurance companies out of business. Then people will be forced to look to Gov't for healthcare, ie single-payer socialized medicine. Time will tell...
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    As I said, time will tell.

    I (and the GOP) was correct in the assertion that premiums would go up and that workers would indeed be dropped from their plans.

    And so far we've been shown to be right in our predictions.

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    you know, anyone who even plays this game is an idiot...

    obama said what he needed to say to get elected and once elected the realities set in... truth is he cant stand against the lobbyists... he can stand against some, but not all... and anyone who believed the world was gonna change so drastically within a 4 year term is a complete moron...

    i'd also like to add, anyone accusing somebody of being bad because they cant change everything in 4 years is just as big a moron...

    you people get so caught up in words that you forget whats even real...

    also it needs to be said that if he had less opposition he would get more done... you cant trip him up then point fingers and accuse him of falling on his own... thats blatant f@ggotry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    also it needs to be said that if he had less opposition he would get more done...
    Without opposition unemployment would likely be even higher.

    And so would our debt. And so would the record number of Americans on food stamps.

    Thankfully when November rolls around, he is going to have alot more oppostion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    obama said what he needed to say to get elected and once elected the realities set in...
    Namely the reality that socialism has never worked before.

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