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Since it passed we have found out that the cost estimates were off, it's actually going to cost TWICE what we were told, we've found that hundreds of thousands of workers would have lost coverage without waivers, and that premiums are indeed skyrocketing to pay for it.
People like Boehner, Rush, and me, etc who predicited this were dead right. But you go ahead and stand by the teleprompter reading community organizer.
Posting funny pictures won't change the facts.
Loud City
Originally Posted by BJJ-Blue
LOL at you comparing yourself to them. That's where you got it in the first place!
He most honors my style who learns under it to destroy the teacher. -- Walt Whitman
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Not hardly. Notice my link was a USAtoday link, not rushlimbaugh.com or Boehner's site, or a GOP site. Perhaps you have some links touting the successes of Obamacare?
But we were ALL correct, so I guess I can compare myself to them in this instance. Good company indeed. Not to brag, but even without hearing them I knew it would fail, as socialism always does. I don't need anyone to tell me that one. History does a good job there.
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USA today....ok then. Nuff said there.
you ever had an original thought of your own there badbj?
Kung Fu is good for you.
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Of course I do. Remember, I came up with a simple question all on my own that stumped you.
I just use sources to back up my assertions.
Loud City
Of course I do. Remember, I came up with a simple question all on my own that stumped you.
I just use sources to back up my assertions.
Really??? So who are the 'many'?
He most honors my style who learns under it to destroy the teacher. -- Walt Whitman
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you asked: how come blue states like California and New York are almost bankrupt while red states like Alabama, Mississippi and Texas (I think) are not.Of course I do. Remember, I came up with a simple question all on my own that stumped you.
I just use sources to back up my assertions.
I responded with the fact that you need to get a better understanding of geographical layout, population sizes and so on. You are talking about comparatively small states with two of the states that are huge economic engines for your entire country.
The only thing that stumped me was that you were not of the intelligence to be able to discern that simple fact.
By all means though, keep patting yourself on the back...No one else is going to.
Kung Fu is good for you.
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Ok, fair enough. So now please explain to me how those factors played into the fact that NY and CA are facing bankruptcy/bailouts while MI, AL, and TX are not.
And fyi, TX is not considered a "small state".
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Oh, I have my own explanation/answer for the question. I just want to see what your explanation/answer is.
I like to look at both sides of the issue. So since we disagree on alot of things, I want to see your thoughts on this.
Loud City
Texas (9th poorest state in USA)
Below poverty threshold in 2009: 17.2%
Below poverty threshold in 2008: 16.0%
Residents whose income fell below poverty threshold between 2008 and 2009: 358,673
Alabama (6th poorest state in USA)
Below poverty threshold in 2009: 17.5%
Below poverty threshold in 2008: 15.7%
Residents whose income fell below poverty threshold between 2008 and 2009: 93,478
Mississippi (Poorest state in the USA)
Below poverty threshold in 2009: 21.9%
Below poverty threshold in 2008: 21.4%
Residents whose income fell below poverty threshold between 2008 and 2009: 18,157
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/acsbr09-1.pdf
Last edited by MasterKiller; 10-19-2010 at 11:01 AM.
He most honors my style who learns under it to destroy the teacher. -- Walt Whitman
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And yet those States are in alot better financial shape than NY and CA.
Can you explain why that is?
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And your source did show that poverty has grown in those States during the Obama Administration, correct?
Out of curiousity, how many of the 50 States did poverty grow during that time?
Loud City
Define "better financial shape."
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08...ates/index.htm
States in Worst Budget Trouble
Arizona
Rank: 1 (Previous Rank: 2*)
Budget gap (as a % of the total budget): 30.80%
Total gap: $3.1 billion
Gap before budget was approved: $1.9 billion
Additional midyear gap: $1.2 billion
Nevada
Rank: 5 (Previous Rank: 4)
Budget gap (as a % of the total budget): 19.60%
Total gap: $1.4 billion
Gap before budget was approved: $898 million
Additional midyear gap: $536 million
Alabama
Rank: 6 (Previous Rank: 7)
Budget gap (as a % of the total budget): 15.00%
Total gap: $1.2 billion
Gap before budget was approved: $784 million
Additional midyear gap: $458 million
Georgia
Rank: 8 (No change)
Budget gap (as a % of the total budget): 12.90%
Total gap: $2.7 billion
Gap before budget was approved: $245 million
Additional midyear gap: $2.5 billion
South Carolina
Rank: 10 (Previous Rank: 16)
Budget gap (as a % of the total budget): 11.70%
Total gap: $804 million
Gap before budget was approved: $250 million
Additional midyear gap: $554 million
New York
Rank: 12 (Previous Rank: 6)
Budget gap (as a % of the total budget): 11.40%
Total gap: $6.4 billion
Gap before budget was approved: $4.9 billion
Additional midyear gap: $1.7 billion
Granted, California is #2, but there are a lot of RED states between CA and NY.
Last edited by MasterKiller; 10-19-2010 at 11:25 AM.
He most honors my style who learns under it to destroy the teacher. -- Walt Whitman
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Economics change daily.
Long term kick in the pants stuff is survivable.
I don't think New York or California are going to collapse into themselves anytime soon.
They'll be fine.
Anyway, what's your short term observation that you're going to base your long term argument off of?
Oh that Obama, he's so bad! lol
Kung Fu is good for you.
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The red States I mentioned are not facing bankruptcy and/or bailouts like CA and NY are.
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