Well, another fighting contest is done.Guess what, no kung fu guys even entered.

[chokeyouout]

Is it a coincidence?No Kung fu lurp has ever won jack sh!t in a MMA contest.That must mean they withold the secrets of fighting but are to enlightened to enter such a event.There choreographed eye gouges are much to deadly for the MMA fighter.

Is it because the skinny bruce lee wannabee would get pounded into the ground before he let out his wwwaaaaaaaaaaaatttaaaaaaaaaa?These kung fu masters know something we dont.The key is to sit back and give reasons why they shouldent enter fighting competitions while KNOWING deep inside they know how to fight.

Have they fought?NO.They are far too deadly for such a simpletons battle.They understand the power of assumption and wishing.That is the best technique.Kung fu guys dont enter because they know they will maim the other entrants and they cant stand the idea.They just sit back and wish in their minds that they will never have to unleash the power of kung fu!

One day everyone will realize that live training and wrestling is useless.Once you become secure that you can kill anyone in your head you dont need to actually do itanywhere else.Forms and strange attacks named after animals or chinese cuisine cannot be stopped by anyone.The thousands of years of what they read about fighing have proven the effectiveness.The ancient ones have been sucsessful in the history books so it must be true.


BEWARE OF THE SPECULATOR.

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[Kaitain(UK)]

you might find the idea of hitting each other for sport fairly unattractive/unproductive and would much prefer to use full contact in situations where it was required :) - i.e. training and in a fight

I don't have a desire to enter the ring ever again

Maybe it's a comment on the temprament of CM Artists?

Or maybe we all just suck :)

It is odd that NOONE enters though - I'm sure not all CMA's are as enlightened as me ;)

"one room, many keys"

[jjj]

Maybe they didnt enter because of the rules. Eye gouging, scratching and testicle biting were not allowed were they? How can you expect a KF master to compete when this deadly arsenal is not allowed?

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"It's not really NHB because they won't let me bring a platoon of Navy SEAL's with Blackhawk fire support into the ring!"
-Watchman

[Ky-Fi]

well, I would agree with you guys. If you want to objectively consider yourself a great fighter, you should probably be fighting a lot with almost no rules---and as I don't do that, I wouldn't make any claims as to being an awesome fighter. Knifefighter is pretty open about his experience and competitions--maybe you guys could post some links or references as to your records in organized NHB competitions that could be independantly verified?

[Matt-le-kat]

I think one of the main reasons that you don't normally see kung fu guys in the ring is because kung fu takes relatively longer to become proficient at.
I would have thought that by the time someone has trully mastered kung fu, they no longer want to fight with anyone. (that and they'd be too old to have the stamina to fight)

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[Mr. Nemo]

Man, will you guys take it easy?

I get your god**** point already. Kung fu hasn't won any NHB competitions to speak of. Do you have to keep rubbing salt into that god**** wound? You act like we brag about our unbeatable techniques all the time on MMA forums, like we walk around like we're the hot wearing our pajamas and stealing people's lunch money.

I know this is a tired point, but why the hell do you come to a forum named "kung fu online" if all you want to do is sit (on the bench yourself, I might add, or do you compete in these events?) and s****** about how we never compete in NHB.

I want to train realistically, I want to take my kung fu with no bells and whistles to amatuer vale tudo and god willing maybe even win once I feel like I'm good and ready, and I'm not the only one.

And stop bringing up the ridiculousness of our "no eye gouging" excuses. Barely anyone ever says that around here anymore. It's easy to make us look stupid if you just make up stupid and act like we say it all the time.

By the way, some wing chun stylists have won matches in King of the Cage. Kung Fu can be effective in NHB, it's just really taking its time at it.

[Kung Lek]

I believe that the contests held in these typoes of venues are for the types of people they attract.

If people like that sort of thing then they are certainly allowed to do that.
These are the folks that always always always have something to prove.

Chokeyouout, I can sit back confidently and be comfortable in the knowledge that I have been given and be comfortable with my abilty to apply some of it when necessary to defend myself or someone else who cannot.

You can puff your chest and badmouth traditional styles as much as you like. People will still practice and learn and develop. And your character reflection will remain the same :)
anyway, try to temper the language a bit and be less prvocative in your rants about rolling ok.

And would you mind posting your uhb,nhb,ufc, cpb and what not posts to the "Other Related arts" forum, you really don't have much to say about Kung Fu and you exhibit not much knowledge of it in history or application. Seeing as this is a _Kung Fu_ forum we really don't need to have someone screaming in the corner about their agenda when there is good Kung Fu talk to be talked! :)

Thanks it would be appreciated

peace

Kung Lek

[Ky-Fi]

Well said, Kung Lek.

[Boulder Student]

The best athlete
wants his opponent at his best
The best general
enters the mind of his enemy.
The best businessman
serves the communal good.
The best leader
follows the will of the people.

All of them embody
the virtue of non-competition.
Not tht they don't love to compete,
but they do it in the spirit of play.
In this they are like children
and in harmony with the Tao.

Chokeyouout,
Of course you shouldn't talk about the toughest mix martial artists on the kung fu board. They aren't interested in play or the best. They want to retreat to the cozy cocoon of tradition. Perverted Confucianism I call it.

One must toughen up without losing one's tenderness.

[Watchman]

[old jong]

:D :D :D

C'est la vie!

[rogue]

What I'd like to be watching and where.


Sincerly,
One more for the Road Rogue

Adventure is just a romantic name for trouble. It sounds swell when you write about it, but it's hell when you meet it face to face in a dark and lonely place.
Louis L'Amour

[Budokan]

LOL @ Watchman...

Anyway:

There go those "shoot and mount" boys again, thinking that everyone (along with themselves) has something to prove about their style.

What a yawner. You know, they keep harping about how they aren't "arrogant" but that's kind of hard to defend with the obvious intolerance they have towards any other style than theirs.

If you don't want to be perceived as arrogant, then don't act that way. Or, at least, go for laughs, which would be appreciated by everybody on this board.

Finally, I can't think of a better place for the "shoot and mount" crowd to be exiled than the "Other Related Arts" forum.

Look, there goes another tumbleweed...! :D

K. Mark Hoover

[Mr. Nemo]

The reason I get frusturated is because I like NHB. I try to train as realistically as I can.

But you guys set up these straw men representing kung fu stylists and tear them down when they really have very little to do with who we actually are. Also, do you have any idea how frusturating it is to make a coherent point to someone that only speaks in biting sarcasm?

I realize that you're not only talking to me personally, you're talking to the kung fu community at large on this board, but I still think you're painting with way too broad a brush.