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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcelo-RJ View Post
    Ooops! I see, through some Italian videos, that now it's called "Shaolin" Hek Ki Boen...
    That would make their brand new style older than Wing Chun, wouldn't that?


    All of these legend made up is a creation starting late 1990. It started at the wing Chun mail list and the book complete wing Chun era. It is not just Benny but many other so called Grandmaster today also did the same things.


    What happen is in that era, in the discussion in the WCML , hung mun or tian tee hui was reveal to the public.

    Thus, people started to link WCK with hung mun or tian tee hui to WCK. And then the shaolin Lin moves type of jee shim shao lin legend also got brought in, and the somehow Ip Chun endorse Pan Nam's story on Tan Sau Ng who is the red boat opera player.

    So, if one dig out the trace of WCML and how these different lineges evolve thier history , one can see what is going on clearly





    The blind sport at 1990 is that these people who made his story are:

    1. they don't know WCK involve in up raising is in 1850 era. Not at the late 1600 to early 1700 era of burning of shaolin Lin which they think.

    2. Tan sau Ng also is belongs to the late 1600 era.

    3. There is a trace able Path via the technical uniqueness path in tcma and Chinese history which could be clearly identify and trace.





    So, these people, due to wanting their WCK is the most olderst, jump into relating itself to shaolin Lin burning, tian tee hui, tan sau Ng.

    And for decades, since then they cannot fully cover their story, thus, their story always needs to evolve when different issues raises. It has been a decade like that , one can trace it and sees for oneself.

    Vtm starts with claiming the red boat WCK as a watery down version of original WCK or Hung fa yi WCK , as the article in kung fu magazine and the published book the mastering of wing Chun are the evidence of that early verion of their history.

    Vtm get into white crane because to make its his-story believe able , it link up with white crane of fujian, since the white crane of fujian is the art could be found in late 1600 era. However, instead of true fujian white crane they get into NGO Cho which Is a derivation of white crane of fujian.
    there is where the Hkm tragic developed.

    And others stick at shaolin Lin and tan sau Ng continous to evolve their his story. Some even get hung gar involve .





    However, due to they missed the era of the WCK related with the lee man mau, tai ping heavenly kingdom, hung mun uprising in 1850 , these his story they had made up is based on late 1600 , there is aways a gap in time line and in their story which they needs to evolve or touch up every so many years to package thier history. Not to mention the evolve of WCK with tian ti hui has said nothing about tain ti hui or hung Hun created WCK. So, these people us betting their hs story with some legend and some their own creativity.

    And that has happen since then, if one take the history one describe in complete WCK , as a reference, the look at thier today's version of history, there one can see how much things has evolved.


    History is like some one ask who is your great great grandfather to your grand father family tree. If one knows one will say the same thing 100 years ago and 100 years later. Not keep evolving the list and have a never ending never complete fine tune. When a history doesn't settle and the sets one teaches doesnt settle. That is the indication of uncertainty.





    On the other hand, there is a solid technological history path with is based on the technological uniqueness of the art. Since nothing comes out of the thin air, with the technology path basic elements of wck can be traced very accurately to the mother sources.


    Speak about the Hkm WCK, it is out of mind not to see those type of NGO cho hard style fajing doesn't fit siu Lin tau practice.

    It is also out of mind to against white crane of fujian to claim the WCK history as from shaolin Lin as in other his story.

    Also, it is out of the mind not to see all these so called shaolin Lin era original WCK has Gm Ip man signature in thier siu Lin tau or advance siu Lin tau sets. When is Gm Ip man becomes the original creator of WCK? Where his signature is an evidence of his own evolution ?





    Take a look at this from china by the true tcma experts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exvi3-ko6HI

    Don't you want to know why this art technically close to WCK?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnM49Y_IF0M

    See for yourself is it shaolin , NGO cho , or what it is?





    Truth always speak for itself , because what exist aways leave a trace. People will find out. It is only a matter of time. And education.
    Last edited by Hendrik; 07-02-2012 at 07:43 AM.

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