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    Thanks everyone. Hopefully tommorrow I'll have some vids dending on how lazy my students are and if they will even wake up.

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    Drunk guys moves to shove me, I just move aside and watch him fall on his face.
    Non-drunk guy who wants to hurt me? Same as someone else mentioned here with the waist turn, only I grab the back collar, step in for the trip, and face slam the dumb ******* into the ground with his own fool momentum. Stomp stomp kick, rinse and repeat until threat is neutralized.

    Yeah, there's a few things they can do to get away from that, though they normally don't. However, they still have the forward momentum, and they are stuck with that. Ues according to how they react.
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    can be tricky depending on: suprise, space, size, reaction time, agility, how drunk you are

    im of the mind that if you 'know' something is coming, pre-emptive attack, thats just what i believe (uki's headbutt is perfect lol). but if you get suprised, reaction time, agility and footwork will save you from falling down. if you think its coming but dont attack first, but can be prepared by even a fraction of a second, you 'might' be able to dissipate the force if you move back putting him off balance, or avoid the shove all together, then you can counter with strikes or grappling. move inside with strikes, sweep/throw, or clinch.

    or grab a bar stool and yell 'bar fight' and try to start a rumble till the bouncers own both of you.
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    Not a fan of the headbutt. Could accidentally kill the guy if you hit them hard enough.

    That and a last second shift on the part of either of you, and you end up knocking yourself out.
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
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    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
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    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by uki View Post
    most excellent as usual... got puter back with wireless... severed the connection at home to spare time - now i just roam the wee morning hours in search of unsecured wifi.
    welcome back; place wasn't the same w/out you - people started taking themselves waaaay to seriously...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    lol ur lsoer
    Maybe so, but I can spell and use proper grammar.

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    when pushed or pulled always go with the direction of thier force, to try to go against it is foolish.
    when pushed simply use your wrists to make inward circles and rediirect thier force onward/past you and outward/away form you. After this you can choose to or not to counter.

    same thing with a single handed push, only a slight turn of the waist is needed with a slight parry is needed.
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    Side step, if they're slow and sloppy. If the push lands, return fire with an uppercut or rising hammer fist, depending on the distance.

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    If the push lands, return fire with an uppercut or rising hammer fist, depending on the distance.
    U sould never allow the push/shove to land.... people can shove pretty hard and with some force, you cannot react to counter quick enough once contact is made...jus sayin
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    its always good to explore all the options imo, nothing is perfect and no one can avoid all attacks. sure its best to avoid a fight, but sometimes you cant. its best to avoid an attack, but sometimes you cant so you have to block/parry/recover/counter.
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    lucas,
    can you explian
    block/parry/recover/counter.
    do you mean choose one of these methods or in sequence, becuse you cannot block then parry its either or
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    control the distance at all costs, try to use verbal distractions to calm him down and occupy his mind, keep your hands up to help control the distance and if he crosses that distance to push you hit him hard, hit him often and keep hitting him until he stops moving

    Alternatively look up geoff thompsons the fence for a much better and detailed analysis....which ultimatly says the same thing

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    chin na

    if you don't want to hurt them 'cuz it's a drunk friend or relative...

    if he's shoving with his palms finger tips up, trap both of his palms flat against your chest, step one foot back and bend towards your opponent causing him to hyperextend at his wrists. He will have to yield his position and go with your lock to avoid breaking his wrists. Be careful with this technique.

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    brace, and with the cup of your hand cup his elbows and press up. His forward momentum will stop.
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    Post his arms up, or swim inside. Clinch/shoot, lift, drop on skull.
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