how not to fight a boxer

[sanjuro_ronin]

Because it doesn't take 10 years (or even 10 hours) to learn how to CP.

Moreover, CPing represents 90% of what you see people do yet it's 10% of the art or less...

Shall I keep going?

You can, sure, but allow me this simple analogy.
The right cross is less than 10% of boxing ( as is any single punch really), yet without an effective one has there ever been a elite level boxer?

Point is that I see many people say that CP is "low end" WC but that is like saying a left hook is low level boxing.

[YungChun]

You can, sure, but allow me this simple analogy.
The right cross is less than 10% of boxing ( as is any single punch really), yet without an effective one has there ever been a elite level boxer?

Point is that I see many people say that CP is "low end" WC but that is like saying a left hook is low level boxing.

Not the same... A VT punch--the punch could be compared to a hook... We could look at if someone's punch is well developed and no it's use is not low level..

"Chain Punching" is a (myth) or noob tactic, possibly an erroneous one depending on how it's done, which is typically with hyper timing and no body power.... It's used to compensate for no power, no technique, no real tactic, no real control, no use of ging, structure and instead what you get is the Mad Eggbeater.. Using this tactic against good boxers will result in making them giggle....

[sanjuro_ronin]

Not the same... A VT punch--the punch could be compared to a hook... Chain Punching is a tactic, possibly an erroneous one depending on how it's done, which is typically with hyper timing and no body power.... It's used to compensate for no power, no technique, no real tactic, no real control, no use of ging, structure and instead what you get is the Mad Eggbeater.. Using this tactic against good boxers will result in making them giggle....

Well, described like that, anyone using or teaching CP should be shot and ****ed on.

[kung fu fighter]

here are a couple of good sparring drills to help to prepare for boxers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie4k2d0ZSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHKze...eature=channel

[YungChun]

Well, described like that, anyone using or teaching CP should be shot and ****ed on.

LOL

Something like that..

[YungChun]

here are a couple of good sparring drills to help to prepare for boxers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie4k2d0ZSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHKze...eature=channel

Really?

CB is totally off IMO..

He has a very limited and static idea of what "Boxing range" is and seems to emphasize the idea of VT keeping distance... Then he has the V step thing where he waits for him, demos walking around the punch, blind side, etc... This is what I meant before about trying to gain position on the outside not being the right way to go.. Try walking around a boxers jab...

Still watching to see if anything useful...

[sanjuro_ronin]

Honestly, the only drill anyone can do to prepare for a certain system is to spar that system.

[YungChun]

Honestly, the only drill anyone can do to prepare for a certain system is to spar that system.

I have no problem drilling stuff, but it should be stuff that follows the method, that can work...that uses realistic timing.

Not this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8EbYipJprQ

Which is exactly what you shouldn't do. It's a good way to get decapitated..

[KPM]

Remember the old Kung-Fu series? It may be fiction but the message was correct, remember what they said? When you can take the pebble from my hand it will be time for you to leave...!

They kicked them out.. That's what VT needs to do or some variation.. Give your student some gear as a graduation present and kick them out!

That's good! I like that image!

[Frost]

No one expects "average joe" to video himself sparring and post it.
We are truly addressing this to those that HAVE posted videos or done instructional series, and there are a lot of them out there.

actually if they are making comments about how bad certain clips are and how wrongly they are fighting with wing chun, then it would be nice of them to actually put upa clip of them doing it right.........

[YungChun]

Not perfect but this is getting a little closer..

The VT guy has the reach advantage this time as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA7rj7b_sM0

Of course the skill levels of who and what as well as methods will vary...

[GlennR]

Not perfect but this is getting a little closer..

The VT guy has the reach advantage this time as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA7rj7b_sM0

Of course the skill levels of who and what as well as methods will vary...

That was not a boxer

GlennR

[YungChun]

That was not a boxer

GlennR

Well perhaps not the kind you'd like to see, btw feel free to post a better one, (I gave finding one a shot) but it does show VT which is slightly closer to what I am looking for....

There simply are not lots of good VT vs. Western Boxing to be found.... Which of course speaks volumes..

Okay here's a 100% real Boxer against VT.. A bit too much CPing but notice later how he controls and breaks structure while striking, and uses the VT collar, etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHrLMbBM_sc

[Hardwork108]

Because it doesn't take 10 years (or even 10 hours) to learn how to CP.

Moreover, CPing represents 90% of what you see people do yet it's 10% of the art or less...

Shall I keep going?

You are saying that the overall majority of Wing Chun teachers don't teach the art properly (because they have no idea themselves)!!!

Wow, we finally agree o something.....

[Vajramusti]

You can, sure, but allow me this simple analogy.
The right cross is less than 10% of boxing ( as is any single punch really), yet without an effective one has there ever been a elite level boxer?

Point is that I see many people say that CP is "low end" WC but that is like saying a left hook is low level boxing.

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Sanjuro-

No right cross?-- Frazier? Some left hook from that right hander. But you know that.Just a question of phrasing more clearly?

One of those opinions- many wc-ers are not taught their punching properly. Not understood- the role of good structure and the path of the punch for development.

Joy Chaudhuri