Hello!
I am wanting to know what the Choy Li Fut "goon choy" is? I could find no mention of it. Perhaps it is mis-spelling of a different Chinese name?
Thanks
EDIT: I put "goon sao" in title, but i meant "goon choy"
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Hello!
I am wanting to know what the Choy Li Fut "goon choy" is? I could find no mention of it. Perhaps it is mis-spelling of a different Chinese name?
Thanks
EDIT: I put "goon sao" in title, but i meant "goon choy"
Last edited by TopCrusader; 02-24-2011 at 10:57 AM. Reason: wrong word!
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
hey, me too!
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
CLF Yut Gar
Never heard of it. Did you mean "gong sau"? If so it is not a technique or punch just loosely translates to "talk with your hands".
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I'm sorry I had a brain **** when i typed in the title of this thread. I didn't mean "goon sao" i meant "goon choy"
Any idea what goon choy is?!
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
where do you get GOON Choy from? did someone say that to you?
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
CLF Yut Gar
Still never heard of it. Only 'goon' I know is Alice the Goon from my youth in the Popeye cartoons.
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
i wonder if he means Fa Kuen Sau?
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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HA! Alice the goon always scared me as a child
Well, "goon choy" was printed in the following sentence:
"Two techniques that Bruce took from the choy Li Fut were Chop Choy and Goon Choy." -- by Jesse Glover (1st student of BL)
I have a feeling its a misprint?! maybe he meant Gwa Choy?
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
it was probably sow choy cause kwa choy isn't as powerful.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Registered User
The proper Cantonese pronunciation is Gung Ceoi:
Gung - http://chinalanguage.com/dictionarie...hou&query=653B
Ceoi - http://chinalanguage.com/dictionarie...hou&query=6425
We call it Gung Sum Ceoi - attacking to the heart strike. It can also be using two palms (then it is called gung sau) as well as two fists, they cross over each other while we charge into our opponent at the heart level controlling their forearm with our scissors hands at the same time. Alternatively one hand can block up while the other attack with charp ceoi below.
Last edited by extrajoseph; 02-24-2011 at 11:58 PM.
CLF Yut Gar
If it was done with palms wouldn't it be "juerng"? Also when you cross the arms doesn't it become "gum chien" (golden scissors)? Excuse the chinese to english writing.
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Hi CLFNole,
My understanding is the Gung Sau attack is not done with the palms, it is done with forearms in a cross pushing against the third gate (from the elbow to the shoulder) of your opponent so he cannot counter with his elbow, hence it is called a "sau" and not a "jeunrg" and this is done horizontally with the palms facing down.
Gum Jian or Golden-Scissors is usually done blocking upward with the palms facing back at yourself, so you can follow through with a pull down with one hand and a Ping Charp (horizontal Charp) with the other. If you rotate the Gum Jian outward and upward as you block then it becomes a Gung Kiew or an Attacking Bridge.
CLF terminology is very precise but unfortunately no one pays attention to these little details any more.
XJ
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
The fate of traditional gung fu is changing. it needs to anyways. terminology is less important than application for a combat focused society. The importance of forms are increasingly dying off replaced by realistic combat training.CLF terminology is very precise but unfortunately no one pays attention to these little details any more.
Last edited by hskwarrior; 02-25-2011 at 12:01 PM.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Registered User
All modern combat training manuals have names for different techniques, just like in the CLF fighting manuals, otherwise they would get all mixed up. It has nothing to do with doing forms, we are talking about names for different combinations and that would not die off, because that is as basic as one can get. Without knowing the different names for different things, our techniques will only get more sloppy as time goes by and it showed in our discussions, both in this thread and in the "Video: Past elders of Choy Lee Fut" thread and they need to be clarified.
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
Not all people in america speak chinese, therefore, simple explanations will be invented to describe the moves when there is a language barrier. I don't believe the CHINESE names of the moves matter that much to a fighter who just wants to learn them. to some it may. to others they just want to be shown how it works.
the traditional aspects are indeed dying out, but there will be those who will record the right things for the generations to come that are interested in them. but just cause someone doesn't have the terminology as you think it should be doesn't negate the idea of skill in it.
Last edited by hskwarrior; 02-25-2011 at 04:23 PM.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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