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    Different kind of muscle?

    I'm proud to present my daughter's excellent performance. Do you think CMA training can help you to achieve this kind of flexibility, balance, strength, endurence, body alignment, and inner connection?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WguirjwYE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ztoWCtg88

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Qrf5VfkMM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j35M4PGXU34

    Onething in my mind is that I knew she has never done any weight training in her life time. To be able to hold on the pole with 2 arms and keep her body upside down (almost like a human flag) does require some arm strength. My question is, "Do you think her arm strength is different from those who builds big muscle from weight lifting?" What's the difference between these 2 kind of muscle? I know I'm stronger than her but I can't do what she did, why? Did she take "short cut" for her strength development? What might be that "short cut"? All my life I was working on big muscle, it seems to me that you don't need to have big muscle to do certain thing (such as "human flag").

    What' your opinion on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I'm proud to present my daughter's excellent performance. Do you think CMA training can help you to achieve this kind of flexibility, balance, strength, endurence, body alignment, and inner connection?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WguirjwYE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ztoWCtg88

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Qrf5VfkMM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j35M4PGXU34

    Onething in my mind is that I knew she has never done any weight training in her life time. To be able to hold on the pole with 2 arms and keep her body upside down (almost like a human flag) does require some arm strength. My question is, "Do you think her arm strength is different from those who builds big muscle from weight lifting?" What's the difference between these 2 kind of muscle? I know I'm stronger than her but I can't do what she did, why? Did she take "short cut" for her strength development? What might be that "short cut"? All my life I was working on big muscle, it seems to me that you don't need to have big muscle to do certain thing (such as "human flag").

    What' your opinion on this?
    my opinion for what its worth

    1 stunning display from her
    2 you need to read a few exercise science books and anatomy books

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    sorry for off topic but this is a good chance to discuss wu de. people ask what is wude. wude doesnt mean u go killing people or beating up people. u apply wude every day life the small things. i think u posting video of ur daughter pole dancing is lack of wude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I'm proud to present my daughter's excellent performance. Do you think CMA training can help you to achieve this kind of flexibility, balance, strength, endurence, body alignment, and inner connection?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WguirjwYE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ztoWCtg88

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Qrf5VfkMM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j35M4PGXU34

    Onething in my mind is that I knew she has never done any weight training in her life time. To be able to hold on the pole with 2 arms and keep her body upside down (almost like a human flag) does require some arm strength. My question is, "Do you think her arm strength is different from those who builds big muscle from weight lifting?" What's the difference between these 2 kind of muscle? I know I'm stronger than her but I can't do what she did, why? Did she take "short cut" for her strength development? What might be that "short cut"? All my life I was working on big muscle, it seems to me that you don't need to have big muscle to do certain thing (such as "human flag").

    What' your opinion on this?
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    I only looked at the first clip. That is an amazing display of the coordinated usage of the human body.

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    John,
    Absolutely incredible! Congratulations to your daughter! She is quite an artist.

    As for your muscle questions, I think what your daughter does requires a special kind of training. I have been doing bodybuilding on and off for nearly two decades and couldn't even hope to do the things your daughter does.

    Gymnastics and dance requires some similar exercises to martial arts and bodybuilding. But even what may look like the same exercises are done in a little different way. I learned this from my daughter's sixteen years of ballet training.
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    Well I have to say that I was fully prepared to be underwhelmed as with most things posted on this BB, but I have say you have a daughter well worth being proud of!

    She has the muscle of an acrobat or gymnast. It is functional strength, even though it is an unusual function. It is mostly fast twitch muscle fibers. Because of her activity her body will naturally avoid bulk since bulk will inhibit her actions on the pole.
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    Sport specificity, such as Ma Bu training as opposed to squats with weights, 2 entirely different animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    i think u posting video of ur daughter pole dancing is lack of wude.
    I'm not old fashion. We can all appreciate good art. I don't see anything wrong with what she does. When she was in her 3rd grade, she won the Texas state writting contest twice in a role. One subject was "ants". Her writting started, "Run, Run, Run, The human is coming ...". Her whole writting starts from an ant's eye view to look at human being. The other subject was "treasure box". Her writting started, "Oneday I dig out a box in my back yard, there was some old pictures in it, I asked my mother ...". She is a very successful business woman in publish relationship (she writes to build positive image for companies). She had gradulated from the same university (UT Austin) as I did. She is a well educated business woman (not just a dancer as you may think).

    Quote Originally Posted by kwaichang View Post
    Sport specificity, such as Ma Bu training as opposed to squats with weights, 2 entirely different animals.
    I have the same feeling too.
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    yes. it is quite a feat to lift one's own bodyweight.

    I used to practice to walk on both hands but not any more. me got old and high blood pressure etc.

    but i do lift weights still.

    I had severe muscle loss due to diabetes. so I lift weight to gain some muscle mass back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR_fl...eature=related

    my thousand golds/daughter, she likes to sing. she is attending Cal Tech right now.

    she wrote some songs, but she likes to keep them private.

    congrat on your thousand golds achievement

    she got your genes or something.

    some people has some physical attributes or talents or born with them

    some just born stronger than others

    good horse, bad horse, sort of--

    a horse that runs a thousand li is difficult to come by

    so they said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I'm not old fashion. We can all appreciate good art. I don't see anything wrong with what she does. When she was in her 3rd grade, she won the Texas state writting contest twice in a role. One subject was "ants". Her writting started, "Run, Run, Run, The human is coming ...". Her whole writting starts from an ant's eye view to look at human being. The other subject was "treasure box". Her writting started, "Oneday I dig out a box in my back yard, there was some old pictures in it, I asked my mother ...". She is a very successful business woman in publish relationship (she writes to build positive image for companies). She had gradulated from the same university (UT Austin) as I did. She is a well educated business woman (not just a dancer as you may think).
    bawang is just being a rabble-rouser! Don't take most of what he says seriously. How can you take anyone seriously whose mother looks like Sammo Hung anyway?

    I watched your daughter's interview and she is clearly well educated and thoughtful. She choreographed her own routine and even competed with an abdominal strain! I am proud of her and she isn't even MY daughter!

    PLUS, she has only been training for 5 years AND this is only her second year of competition!

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    SPJ,
    Was that your daughter in the video? Very talented! Wow, you peeps amaze me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I'm not old fashion. We can all appreciate good art. I don't see anything wrong with what she does. When she was in her 3rd grade, she won the Texas state writting contest twice in a role. One subject was "ants". Her writting started, "Run, Run, Run, The human is coming ...". Her whole writting starts from an ant's eye view to look at human being. The other subject was "treasure box". Her writting started, "Oneday I dig out a box in my back yard, there was some old pictures in it, I asked my mother ...". She is a very successful business woman in publish relationship (she writes to build positive image for companies). She had gradulated from the same university (UT Austin) as I did. She is a well educated business woman (not just a dancer as you may think).


    I have the same feeling too.
    Man, it's Bawang. The guy is an idiot who can't tell the difference between man and woman, did you expect anything more from him?

    I always loved this song, especially the Chinese version.
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    im being completely serious here. im not insulting you, i dont insult fellow chinese brothers. except spj. this is 21st century you can do whatever you want. people walk down the street with holes on their pants. men fuk other men up the ass. this isnt about right and wrong, morality is relative. this is about loyalty.

    its easy to throw out empty words. confucius say. ching chang chong, ching chong. its hard to live by them.
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    Not only did it take me months to choreograph but I spent hours on the outfit.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3FeXYW_Je8
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R. Brown View Post
    This is not a veiled request for compliments

    The short story is I did 325# for one set of 1 rep.

    1) Does this sound gifted, or just lucky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I'm proud to present my daughter's excellent performance. Do you think CMA training can help you to achieve this kind of flexibility, balance, strength, endurence, body alignment, and inner connection?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WguirjwYE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ztoWCtg88

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Qrf5VfkMM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j35M4PGXU34

    Onething in my mind is that I knew she has never done any weight training in her life time. To be able to hold on the pole with 2 arms and keep her body upside down (almost like a human flag) does require some arm strength. My question is, "Do you think her arm strength is different from those who builds big muscle from weight lifting?" What's the difference between these 2 kind of muscle? I know I'm stronger than her but I can't do what she did, why? Did she take "short cut" for her strength development? What might be that "short cut"? All my life I was working on big muscle, it seems to me that you don't need to have big muscle to do certain thing (such as "human flag").

    What' your opinion on this?
    That was a great performance.

    Not to compare your daughter to an animal, but look at animals such as lions, tigers, leopards, apes/chimps, etc. They don't lift weights, but move their own body weight, yet they are extremely powerful. More powerful than any world-class bodybuilder.

    Different types of strength for different types of endeavors. A man may spend his life body-building to look like a pro wrestler but be unable to match a feat like your daughter's. OTOH, doing what she does, doesn't necessarily equal the ability to bench press 350 lbs.

    Perhaps a feat like your daughter's uses a more tendon-based strength, along with muscle strength?

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