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Thread: Alaska to Consider Lowering Drinking Age for U.S. Troops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    weird... wonder why i, and everyone i know, could handle it at 16 and 18 but an american soldier, let alone the average guy, cant do it in arizona?

    i dont think we're more mature or anything... so it must be conditioning... im pretty sure that the age was much much lower for our parents too...

    if we can do it, you can do it... just stand infront of the mirror and repeat "im smart, goodlooking, and gosh darnit people really do like me!!!" repeat until courage spills outta ya...
    First time away from home, no supervision. Just like college kids. Only now pile on the lack of freedom through basic training and AIT and then all a sudden remove the chains. Recipe for disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCo KungFu View Post
    First time away from home, no supervision. Just like college kids. Only now pile on the lack of freedom through basic training and AIT and then all a sudden remove the chains. Recipe for disaster.
    which is why i said it has to be administered properly and not all at once... i would be more for raising the enrollment age than to lower drinking ages...

    we do okay here tho, and its alot lower than in the states... smoking is 18 now, but it was 16 when i was that age... and drinking has been 19 all my life... military age is 18... still a discrepancy, but not 3 years...
    Last edited by Syn7; 03-31-2011 at 03:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ-Blue View Post
    Drake, I just gave my opinion. I did not claim to be an expert.

    And if you and MK are right and the military opposes it, I'd be fine with not changing the law. I like to let those with expertise in the area in question make the decisions. I just put my .02 cents in, but again I did not claim to be an expert, etc.
    uuuummm... that would be either 2 cents or .02 dollars... good one... the fact that you took the time to write it that way yet managed to get it wrong makes me wonder about your level of comprehension... more evidence of your genius...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    which is why i said it has to be administered properly and not all at once...
    It will be, which is why the law is ultimately meaningless. Its just pandering to sentiment. Somebody will do something stupid and the commanders will just institute a general ordering banning alcohol consumption and curfews for junior enlisted.

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    yeah, i dont care how the military handles it... i would be for outright prohibition to soldiers even... alcohol doesnt help in any way shape or form, its a handicap no matter how you look at it...

    but for the general public, the military enrollment age and the drinking age should be in sync, whichever way they go about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ-Blue View Post
    How does having a different age in different parts of the country work? Is it by county (or the Canadian equivalent of a county), or city or what?
    We still have some 'dry counties' left here. It's a county where alcohol is banned completely. Of course along the county borders, liquor stores thrive.
    We have places that are dry as well. Most of them are either religious, or strongly religious communities or native communities where alcohol is a historical problem and a serious issue. The age difference is a population base thing.

    So it keeps the irresponsible ones from moving up. Whats wrong with that?
    The way I look at it, if you're mature enough at 18ish to be responsible, you're the type I'd like to see move up in the military that protects my freedoms.
    Oddly enough, I agree with Drake regarding the process of culling that needs to occur.
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    I reckon decrease the drinking age to 18, and increase the enlisting age to 21. That way everyone can spend a few years getting pis*ed up and thinking about if they really want to join the army or not. I mean I know I wasn't mature enough to make such a big decision as joining the army when I was that young.

    Some men are going to other countries to fight for, in effect, human rights and dying before they even have full rights in their own society. That seems pretty crazy.

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    maybe that way they can learn to hold their liquor before we give them automatic weapons and explosives to play with


    besides, most people interested in the sauce got into it long before they were 21, i sure did... but i drink maybe once every two or three months, and even then i NEVER loose control... ive only lost control once, its not my thing... people just get hurt, parts get broken, you feel like sh1t later... its pointless... im happy to get my buzz on then stop... besides, everr tried b-boyin' when you can barely stand up straight? doesnt make for a good session... i'd rather rocksteady then take the drunk retards girl home rather than be that retard... im even embarrassed when my friends did it... i say "did" cause i wouldnt associate with anyone that would do that at my age... thats best left to the kids...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Oddly enough, I agree with Drake regarding the process of culling that needs to occur.
    The last thing the military wants is to unleash 10,000 18 year-olds with no bills, no kids, and nothing else to do during the weekend except get drunk on the communities that support those bases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    we do okay here tho, and its alot lower than in the states... smoking is 18 now, but it was 16 when i was that age... and drinking has been 19 all my life... military age is 18... still a discrepancy, but not 3 years...
    I remember that too. I remember the Louisiana didn't raise it to 21 when the Federal Government demanded States do it or face a loss of highway funds. For years after they finally changed it they had some of the worst roads of any State.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    uuuummm... that would be either 2 cents or .02 dollars... good one... the fact that you took the time to write it that way yet managed to get it wrong makes me wonder about your level of comprehension... more evidence of your genius...
    Let's not nitpick please. I know how to write it, it just wasn't a huge deal to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    The last thing the military wants is to unleash 10,000 18 year-olds with no bills, ...
    Yeah, those guys are not known for their smart spending. I learned a long time ago that when you see an area chock full of pawn shops, you know there is either a casino or a military base nearby.

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