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go look at the numbers... dems have created more than theyve axed, reps have axed more than theyve created...
The Democrats are not creating private sector jobs. They are creating more Gov't jobs. And the GOP is axing Gov't jobs. Let me let you in on something, Gov't jobs cost the Gov't money, while private sector jobs make money for the Gov't. I hope the Democrats fail because the more Gov't jobs they create, the further intot he hole we go.

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and about climate change, global warming, or whatever you feel like tagging it as, one thing is very clear, things are changing... glaciers are melting and whether its man made or not, we should be watching that close...
For the sake of argument, let's agree that all this bad stuff is occurring.

The part in bold is all that matters. We are taking away people's rights over this stuff. So it darn sure should matter if it's caused by man or just nature being nature. To me, the Constitution gives us rights, and it doesn't come with caveats. The only thing worse than taking rights away from The People, is taking them away under false pretenses.

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and as long as we arent sure whether humans are the problem, we should act like it is just in case...
Where is the 'facepalm' icon when we need it?

Are you serious?!?!?! I don't know about you, but I like my rights. People fought and died for them, and for someone to just say we should give them up is horrible. And especially when that person admits it might have ZERO to do with the cause of the problem in the first place!!! So, do we only get those rights back if we prove The People aren't the cause?

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obama is not a socialist... i question whether you even know what that word means, blue... he's a weakling retard and maybe does things on the lefts agenda, but he's far from a socialist... jack layton is a socialist, a real socialist... look it up...
He said he wants to "spread the wealth around." That's a socialist, plain and simple.

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that was also three quarters of a century ago, things are different now... people are different, the country is different, the cats that run the companies are different...
Yes they are. Now 'the rich' are pledging to GIVE AWAY half of their wealth.

Here is a list of the Top 50 American philanthropists. You go throught that and then come back and tell me how greedy Americans are:

http://www.businessweek.com/interact...ndividual.html

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yeah they forced that one through... they said they would, they ran on it, and they did...
So jamming through legislation that effects about 1/6th of the US economy is what he/they promised? I missed that one, can you please link me to Obama saying he was going to be the most bipartisan President ever except on healthcare?

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and its not like the republicans are above that lol... but thats just one thing, a big thing, but just one...
So make a list of all they've jammed through while locking Democrats out of meetings. And don't mention Wisconsin, as we are A) talking about the Federal Government, and B) they left on their own valition so of course meetings were held without them.

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there are a ton of things he's caved on, he's a total sellout and he gets no appreciation from either side anytime he reaches out... the gop is in end game mode, theyre going for the ring and anyone who disagrees with that isnt paying attention... they are approaching everything with this all or nothing attitude... they shroud it in words like "broke" "terrorist" "socialist" and sh1t like that... and when republicans axe programs, they are cutting way more progressive programs than they are conservative ones...
So you're defending a liar? We were promised Gitmo would close, it didn't. Bush was bashed for starting wars on his own, yet the community organizer bombed Libya without Congressional approval. And FYI, Bush got Congressional approval before he acted with force. But I guess now Congress doesn't matter if the UN says it's ok.

And yes, we are saying things are dire. Are we supposed to lie? Or sugar coat the truth? Are you saying we are not "broke"? FYI, it was Chuck Schumer who got busted on a live mic admitting the Democrats are to use the word "exteme" as a talking point when describing the GOP. While the GOP is trying to come up with a budget, the Democrats are trying to come up with a campaign game plan. You tell me who cares more for the country?