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    Question Crossfit: Is it suitable for martial arts?

    Been doing crossfit workouts as part of my workouts and find that yeah, I've lost weight that people have actually noticed, although not sure if that's more due to the increased volume recently and the pushing of myself to achieve a good time. What's people's take on crossfit? too much bodyweight exercises and not enough strength? A need to supplement with additional exercises? Not suitable for competition training? What's your thoughts please?
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    Crossfit is great and probably one of the best "cookie-cutter" type programs out there.

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    I think Crossfit is awesome. Some of the Olympic style lifts are very technical so be careful with those. If you can handle the intensity, the Crossfit program will probably get you into the best shape of your life. They have a valuable discussion board over at their site and the Crossfit journals are worth the money too.
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    I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Crossfit is good stuff, but its limitation is that it's a 'one size fits all program'. While they have some great ideas and get you in great shape, I think it makes more sense to figure out what you need and go get it. Are you looking for mass, agility, explosiveness, anaerobic conditioning, aerobic conditioning, strength-endurance, speed-strength endurance? Where are you weak or injured? How much time are you willing to spend, what equipment do you have available? To me, it makes sense to answer these questions first, then build your program based around them, rather than do the WOD.

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    Not many people have the knowledge or the inclination to gain the knowledge needed to create such a specified program. If somebody is going "cookie-cutter", crossfit is one of the best things they can do.

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    While they do offer the same workout for eveyone everyday, one of the things that they try to emphasize over at crossfit is scalability and modifications. They don't say or recommend that everyone should do the same amount reps or weight. Especially beginners. Most of the workouts are time based so the idea is to do what you can in a certain amount of time. The next time that specific workout rolls around you can see your progress. So it is cookie cutter but at the same time it's also personalized to your abilities.

    It's pretty cool.
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    CrossFit is an excellent general physical preparedness program for the average American martial artists. If I was a newbie in the gym or to strength conditioning, then CrossFit would seems to be a good place to start. In my opinion, it is far better starter's choice than doing the conventional body-building methodology.
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    Cross-fit rocks for combat athletes.

    As people have noted, if you are advanced enough, it is "cookie cutter," but if you need an introduction into this sort of strength and conditioning program (very wierd for most people who haven't experienced it before), then it's fabulous.

    This sort of high intensity exercise is really just unusual for people who haven't done it before - which is why I like the intro Crossfit gives.
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    But are you guys saying that you would lead onto more specialised programs after that, if I understood what you mean by cookie cutter program.

    That would take me back to
    Monday: Strength, Tuesday: Endurance etc
    or Monday upper body, Tuesday lower body etc

    Maybe I'm lazy/busy to do a program myself, and I suppose I like the idea of someone telling me what to do...
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    No Neo, it wouldn't.

    The point is that Crossfit is a one size fits all approach. As you become more in tune with your body, you may find that certain exercizes or certain intervals or certain types of training approaches work better for you than others.

    Besides, as I mentioned, Crossfit is different from what most people do. They tend to think of lifting weights as strength and cardio as running for 45 minutes or something. What Crossfit does is push you to your anaerobic threshold - it leaves you gasping for breath, with your heart pounding.

    That is why it's good for combat conditioning - it's fairly short and intense. Not good if you are running a marathon, but **** handy in a fight when 30 seconds into a major spurt of activity, you are ready to do more and the other guy is dying tired.
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    Crossfit's energy systems work is definitely one of its great take home messages, and performing it will provide much benefit to any fighter. That being said, if you're slow it isn't going to get you fast as quickly as dropping a dedicated day of DE and plyos into your rotation. If you're weak, there are quicker ways to up limit strength. If you've got a weak link it may stress that link, nothing like 3-5 extra workouts a week doing that GTG thing can. If you've got a specific injury, muscular imbalance, or tightness, it's not gonna figure out the rehab exercise or mobility drill for you.

    Putting your own thing together is harder, yet I'd argue, that, lacking a S&C coaching staff, massotherapist, and PT, your best long term bet is learning to cook for yourself, as it were.

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    i laugh every single time i watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWO81j2EyYo
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    i laugh every single time i watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWO81j2EyYo
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