Iron Palm/Body Dit da jows

[Kevin73]

I have recently started to train (through my karate) some of the makiwara training and forearm conditioning.

My question is, do you need seperate jows for each of those activities or can you use one type of jow? I have read that you can use the same jow for makiwara training as you do iron palm and some companies sell a jow that is for both of those. Other companies say that you can't use their jow for iron body training, but only iron palm.

New to using jows and would like some input.

Thanks

[KTS]

my opinion, you can probably use a regular iron hand die da jui/dit da jow for your conditioning. though, i don't quite know why you would wanna put your fists through makiwara training.

just dont apply to severely broken or open cuts. apply before and after. massage well and towards the heart.

and, just gotta say, try to get into a softer method that will not brutalize your fists as much. that will come back to haunt you later.

[Kevin73]

Thanks, but when makiwara training is done correctly it will not harm the hands. Granted smashing them over and over into an immovable object will harm them.

[Dale Dugas]

You can use an Iron Palm dit da jow for your fist training as well as your forearm training. The herbs are designed for bone hardening and conditioning.

What you do not want to use is an injury formula for hand training. That is what most people who make and sell liniments will tell you.

Injury Dit Da Jow medicine is not as strong as Iron Palm Dit Da Jow and has different herbs in it for different reasons.

People that tell you, you can use one formula on everything and anything are not in the know, and can cause serious injury.

Please be careful if you buy herbs from people who are unlicensed, untrained and who do not have a professional degree from an accredited Acupuncture/Herbal Medicine graduate program.

Let me know how I can be of assistance. I am getting my Masters in Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine (MAOM) in August from New England School of Acupuncture.

[JamesC]

Dale,

Check your PM.

[Kevin73]

You can use an Iron Palm dit da jow for your fist training as well as your forearm training. The herbs are designed for bone hardening and conditioning.

What you do not want to use is an injury formula for hand training. That is what most people who make and sell liniments will tell you.

Injury Dit Da Jow medicine is not as strong as Iron Palm Dit Da Jow and has different herbs in it for different reasons.

People that tell you, you can use one formula on everything and anything are not in the know, and can cause serious injury.

Please be careful if you buy herbs from people who are unlicensed, untrained and who do not have a professional degree from an accredited Acupuncture/Herbal Medicine graduate program.

Let me know how I can be of assistance. I am getting my Masters in Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine (MAOM) in August from New England School of Acupuncture.

So could you use the Chan Ning Tong for the forearm conditioning as well?

[Dale Dugas]

You could use it, buts it is not designed for that.

Arm conditioning will cause more pain than Iron Palm training as you hit the arms harder and for longer periods of time than most people will hit a bag for Iron Palm training.

You want a medicine that has more pain killers and blood movers than Iron Palm medicine which will have more channel opening herbs and bone hardening herbs in it.

I have a formula that people swear by for injuries and it works great for arm and shin conditioning.

Let me know if you are interested.