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    The conceits of some Kung Fu people

    Talking about things teachers do to keep their style hidden, and the utter uselessness of it in the modern era.

    "I didn't teach him the real style"

    Really? So you conned a paying customer? How nice. Remember when you called your students friends/family? You were lying. The fact that you had to say so speaks volumes.

    "I alter the form in demos"

    This is a leftover from the era when people stole forms and taught, something that doesn't pay the water bill these days. Knowing a form is little, and anyone worth their salt can figure out that steps 1-88 all work a lot of things you've worked on the body mechanics of for years, step 89 looks like a waddle, and steps 90-108 look like something you worked hard on again.

    "I don't teach the real style until after these seven forms that I made up."

    It must be embarrasing that your students would know more about moving in relation to another human had they taken salsa lessons over your six or seven forms, and that, even after you teach them the real style, they'll have to train and teach 7/8 of their time in things that have no basis in usage.

    And I'm not joking about salsa lessons. Every time they move in relation to one another, every time you do form you're not, and the two man sets, after years of other stuff, don't exactly make up the difference.

    "I move well, so and so doesn't look like he could move."

    Fighting seems to have more to do with moving in relation to others than how we move on our own. Athleticism is cool, but moving well at one thing does not relate to reading and moving in relation to others.

    Add your own as you remember them, this is not an attack on kung fu, just remembering the old days, and having a beer in honor of their demise. I'm all for preserving the USAGE of every style possible, and care not one bit about preserving any other part over that.
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    I never understood any of that and I hope I never will.
    Anyone I train is able to fight in a question of weeks, able to fight well in a question of months and able to hold their own VS a trained fighter in a year.
    If not I am doing a horrible job, period.

    Fighting seems to have more to do with moving in relation to others than how we move on our own. Athleticism is cool, but moving well at one thing does not relate to reading and moving in relation to others.
    Very well said.
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    I forgot to mention the importance of suggesting that your rivals will become impotent from the way they tuck their sacrum.

    In Sanjuro-Ronin's case, if he were only more internal, his ip bags would get rubbed a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC Elbows View Post
    I forgot to mention the importance of suggesting that your rivals will become impotent from the way they tuck their sacrum.

    In Sanjuro-Ronin's case, if he were only more internal, his ip bags would get rubbed a lot more.
    I will present your suggestion to the wife, anything is worth a try !
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    I will present your suggestion to the wife, anything is worth a try !
    I'd hate to think I was the cause of ip bags not getting the rubbing they need in two countries.
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    Artists usually go on about how it is hard to mix business with art.

    It is mostly hard because they never were taught how to conduct business in art school.

    In an odd way, this applies here as well.
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    Do people REALLY talk like that? i don't believe that ****. you're joking right?
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    Bruh we thought you knew better
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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    Do people REALLY talk like that? i don't believe that ****. you're joking right?
    Actually, each of the examples I used are almost direct quotes I've heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC Elbows View Post
    This is a leftover from the era when people stole forms and taught, something that doesn't pay the water bill these days.
    1965-1970 hong kong

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    1965-1970 hong kong
    I have trust issues with Chinese.
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
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    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    I have trust issues with Chinese.
    You gonna finish that sentence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    You gonna finish that sentence?
    Food?

    ????
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
    ~ Mark Twain

    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    i went to si chuan restarurant last week, i shat blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    i went to si chuan restarurant last week, i shat blood.
    You digest like ABC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Food?

    ????
    I would've gone for:

    lead toys

    factory owners

    cosmetic products

    political structure

    geopolitical aspirations

    Food

    so, yes, food was on the list, it's still your turn.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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