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    thanks for the link, nice to see you have a northern mantis recipe as thats my style.

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    Dit Da Yao Oil Formula

    Hey, all. Very long time no see.

    After many years of using I am finally working out some of my own jows. Currently a Dit Da Yao. One thing I haven't been able to get clear on is how greatly the standard herb/solvent ratios change when using oil versus alcohol. One source claimed you use 25% more herbs per gallon of oil compared to alcohol.

    Any tips/experience helps. Also, if there are any public Dit Da Yao formulas you know of, please link away!

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    To add, I am looking also for the correct ratio of herbal oils and extracts to carrier oil. IIRC Sifu Dale mentioned that herbal oils are alright to use in oil-based formulas.

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    Greetings NJM,

    Here is a decent book:

    http://www.amazon.com/Shaolin-Taoist.../dp/1880412004



    mickey

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    are you looking for an oil for massage?

    oils are great for that, not for training as they trap in a lot of heat.

    Are you looking for non alcohol liniments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mor Sao View Post
    are you looking for an oil for massage?

    oils are great for that, not for training as they trap in a lot of heat.
    In my experience, I had great post-training results from Sifu Dale's blue dragon oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings NJM,

    Here is a decent book:

    http://www.amazon.com/Shaolin-Taoist.../dp/1880412004



    mickey
    Excellent, thanks! I'll try to get a hold of it.

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    The book afore mentioned is more about internal tonics, not injury liniments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mor Sao View Post
    The book afore mentioned is more about internal tonics, not injury liniments.
    Thanks for letting me know. I was going to have a friend order it through library loan.

    Getting back to dit da jow, has anyone noticed that resins (dragon's blood, myrrh, etc) don't seem to fully dissolve in alcohol during extraction? They must be partly insoluble.

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    Resins should be well pulverized. A little goes a long way and that's also why you gotta let the Jow steep for some months. Some folks will dip them in vinegar to speed the dissolution process. Maybe Mor Sao can comment further on that.

    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by herb ox View Post
    Resins should be well pulverized. A little goes a long way and that's also why you gotta let the Jow steep for some months. Some folks will dip them in vinegar to speed the dissolution process. Maybe Mor Sao can comment further on that.

    peace

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    I've always let my jows steep for months (my three main gallon jugs have been going on 3-4 years). But this is what I've found recently:

    A 1:1 ratio of powdered dragon's blood (daemonorops, ground from chunks by me) to 40% alcohol dissolves ~20% after two days, stays relatively constant at this solution for weeks.
    A 1:1 ratio of dragon's blood to 95% alcohol dissolves almost completely within a day.

    Unlike most raw resins, it would appear that the daemonorops I use does not contain much alcohol-insoluable gum, but lots of alcohol-soluable oleoresin.

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