Application of Biu Johng

[Eric Olson]

Doe anyone have a video showing a clean application of Biu Johng? This technique shows up a lot in CLF but I've yet to see a very convincing application.

Also, I notice the body position on this technique varies quite a bit so I'm curious to see if people have a different idea about its application.

Thanks,

EO

[Ben Gash]

It's just the same as Peng/ward off from Taiji. Typically applied as an off-balancing throw.

[TenTigers]

biu-jong can come from the front or back, from the front, it can be an unbalancing technique, a takedown, or if it is across the throat, can crush the trachea. If applied with a wrist/arm grab, you can lock/break the elbow against the body while coming across the throat.
From the rear, it strikes the base of the skull.
Often, it is used in conjunction with sow-choy, such as been choy,sow choy,biu-jong.

[hskwarrior]

Here is a drill we do with biu jong in it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtSQwF-c7ak

[BDBSK]

We use it to crash the center line, then to Thai clinch. I should do a vid on it.

[hskwarrior]

Biu Jong can be used to crash thru someones guard, as a strike to a limb, torso, or head.

[TenTigers]

Here is a drill we do with biu jong in it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtSQwF-c7ak

that's what we do when we do been sow jong. Our gwa is more of a downward backfist and been being horizontal-po-tay-to, po-tah-to

[hskwarrior]

that's what we do when we do been sow jong. Our gwa is more of a downward backfist and been being horizontal-po-tay-to, po-tah-to

Our Kwa Choy's are vertical, horizontal, and diagonal. in this drill from the video, you can kwa Choy in a Sei Ping Ma, Sow Choy in a Twist Horse, then step up into a Din Ji Ma (for us) with the Biu Jong or you can side side step with the Kwa then strike with the sow, step up and strike with the biu jong.

[hskwarrior]

at 1:42 and 2:09 you see me doing successive biu jongs (just like five of em) and the second one is just one of my beginner students drilling biu jong on the pads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skMlRPETqic

[Violent Designs]

I use biu jong more as a penetrating "drilling" bridge/entrance technique rather than an uprooting/bodycheck technique.

Probably because I don't like the motion so much.

[Eric Olson]

Thanks for your responses.

I just don't see this as a preferred technique. For example, if I wanted to strike the throat I'd use a knife-hand strike (faster), if I wanted to knock someone down I'd use Gwa Cheui or Dat Cheui to the mid section (more powerful.)

So I'm wondering if there are any unique advantages to this technique? In my brand of CLF it shows up an awful lot. As ten tigers mentioned it can be used as a behind the elbow break (ie you block and trap the punching arm and come up behind the elbow with Biu Johng), maybe this is the primary application? It would make sense because it's also not very powerful but you don't need a huge amount of power for this application (hurts like a *****!)

EO

[jdhowland]

So I'm wondering if there are any unique advantages to this technique? In my brand of CLF it shows up an awful lot. As ten tigers mentioned it can be used as a behind the elbow break (ie you block and trap the punching arm and come up behind the elbow with Biu Johng), maybe this is the primary application? It would make sense because it's also not very powerful but you don't need a huge amount of power for this application (hurts like a *****!)

EO

In our style we use yeuhng kiuh for this because it is quicker. Biu johng is not usually strong enough to knock someone down but makes a great entry for a shoulder lock and throw.

A favorite app for this is to enter by stepping behind the lead lead leg and unbalance with full side contact (get your ribs right up against his) at the same time as you turn your hips to destabilize his lead leg with your thigh. If you control his lead arm with the assisting hand the biu johng begins by jamming your lead shoulder into his armpit, then follow through. In this application the fist never even touches your opponent. It just adds momentum for the shoulder and upper arm contact to complete the throw. If he reacts quickly by leaning forward, drag your elbow up from under his arm and press it into the back of his shoulder to take him down the other way.

This can also be done as a front entry, striking with biu johng behind the shoulder but i've never seen it work in sparring.

[TenTigers]

As ten tigers mentioned it can be used as a behind the elbow break (ie you block and trap the punching arm and come up behind the elbow with Biu Johng), maybe this is the primary application? It would make sense because it's also not very powerful but you don't need a huge amount of power for this application (hurts like a *****!)

EO

ah, you misunderstood. Let me see if I can clarify:
Let's say you and your opponent are in a left lead.
You throw been choy to his head-through his guard, and as you step in with your right leg into a right side horse, you grab his arm with your left hand. As you land in your right side horse, you throw a right sow choy through the base of the skull.
Maintaining the grasp of the opponent's left arm, you then come back under his throat with biu-jong. You are now locking/breaking his left elbow with your body/chest, while striking thr throat.

[Violent Designs]

ah, you misunderstood. Let me see if I can clarify:
Let's say you and your opponent are in a left lead.
You throw been choy to his head-through his guard, and as you step in with your right leg into a right side horse, you grab his arm with your left hand. As you land in your right side horse, you throw a right sow choy through the base of the skull.
Maintaining the grasp of the opponent's left arm, you then come back under his throat with biu-jong. You are now locking/breaking his left elbow with your body/chest, while striking thr throat.

this sounds complicated. :/

[hskwarrior]

The Biu Jong isn't locked down to striking just the throat. it can be used to strike the ribs, the back, to attack a punch and break elbow