Iron Palm

[Drake]

Hah, that sounds familiar!! =)

Anticipation of UCMJ is worse than UCMJ itself.


Woohoo! I paraphrased a Steven Seagal movie here!

[Dale Dugas]

I can break two concrete patio bricks and i have yet to start iron palm training...not sure what you want to accomplish

Unless you post videos of you breaking, it never happened.

I also would like to see what you are breaking as well as your structure.

No jumping up and coming down on the bricks, no excessive body drop, no palm heeling through it. Those are external breaks.



be well, train hard

[TaichiMantis]

Unless you post videos of you breaking, it never happened.

I also would like to see what you are breaking as well as your structure.

No jumping up and coming down on the bricks, no excessive body drop, no palm heeling through it. Those are external breaks.



be well, train hard

As I said, I haven't trained iron palm yet. However, it is indeed possible to brake patio bricks with proper palm placement and dropping your weight.

[Dale Dugas]

Yes, you can break things buts its physical and not internal.

After you have been training for a few years and learn to relax and move more energy through your structure you are going to be able to hit harder with much less movement.

Again, talking about things is great but without video it never happened.

[tattooedmonk]

if it iron palm...then why is there a piece of cloth over the concrete...i never understood that....
if you train your hand so it doesnt hurt...there is no need for a towel to abosrb the impact on the hand.....

more times than not it is so any small pieces of the slab do not fly and hit you in the eye.

[tattooedmonk]

Do not attempt it without a qualified instructor. Books and videos are great for studying up on the arts but do not replace a qualified instructor. Mantak Chia has some great books on the subject.

[Kemo Martin]

Yes, you can break things buts its physical and not internal.

Internal......
Iron Palm is Internal.........NOT!
and you ( Dale Dugas) break without any physical....aaaahahahahahahahahaaha

total BS

[Royal Dragon]

Dale is right, Chinses Iron Palm is internal. There are also external variations, but over all correct training in Iron Palm is an internal endeavorer.

He has even verbally explained the differences.

[Kemo Martin]

BS
I say if its internal.......
then just set your hand down on the brick
then without moving break the brick.

that would be internal in my opinion

[sanjuro_ronin]

BS
I say if its internal.......
then just set your hand down on the brick
then without moving break the brick.

that would be internal in my opinion

YOUR opinion sounds about right, YOUR opinion on what constitutes internal and what consititutes internal IP are just that, YOUR opinions and you are ?
Dale posts his name and videos for all to see.

[Kemo Martin]

well, YOU just go ahead and believe Dale then.
I'm trying to help stop wushu ignorance.

for me all that talk of super internal strength is just a bunch of K.R.A.P.

Stupid Secret Masters BS

[sanjuro_ronin]

well, YOU just go ahead and believe Dale then.
I'm trying to help stop wushu ignorance.

for me all that talk of super internal strength is just a bunch of K.R.A.P.

Stupid Secret Masters BS

You really need to speak to Dale to see what HE views as "internal", the only person spewing "super internal" stuff is you.

[Kemo Martin]

move more energy through your structure?
sounds mysterious doesn't it

Yes, you can break things buts its physical and not internal.

After you have been training for a few years and learn to relax and move more energy through your structure you are going to be able to hit harder with much less movement.

Again, talking about things is great but without video it never happened.

he was talking about this reply

I can break two concrete patio bricks and i have yet to start iron palm training...not sure what you want to accomplish

if it iron palm...then why is there a piece of cloth over the concrete...i never understood that....
if you train your hand so it doesnt hurt...there is no need for a towel to abosrb the impact on the hand.....

there is no secret, nothing special

I think the type technique Dale demonstrates is too stationary to be of any effect.

I'd like to see a break while dancing around that would have better energy flow with the rhythm and beat................................ that would be internal

[sanjuro_ronin]

Internal and External is pretty much the difference between a "relaxed" break and a "muscled" break.

[Kemo Martin]

Internal and External is pretty much the difference between a "relaxed" break and a "muscled" break.

if no muscles (relaxed), then I guess you would need some velocity???

or

again just lay your hand on the brick
meditate and send the internal energy through the body and break the brick!! hahahaha

I don't think so!!!!